yeah, ive noticed that as well, a lot of the set ups seem to be character specific. Its hard to stay consistent with rush down with 3f reversals roaming around, all you can really do is bait them and block but this can ruin your momentum if they don`t end up doing it.
has anyone used these safe jump setups and tried crossing up with j. mk and actually hitting?
played around with it during WNF casuals and hit fei-long, dictator, boxer, sakura for some reason.
not exactly sure how i set it up but i think it was a fake cross up [hit in front but landed behind]
i used safe jump 1 and 5, but tweaked one a little by dashing twice, half step back then mid kick. going to test some more.
Ive noticed jmk crosses up sometimes as well, its probably character specific but sometimes it happens for me and i didnt even want it too hah
I just practiced it today, it actually hits in front but looks like a cross up, it can happen on characters like Dudley, Boxer, Dictator, Fei, and Gief and Hawk (dont wanna try with the last two cuz you get SPD’d for free after) but yeah gonna test some more on abel, Sagat, Cammy. Im sleepy -_-
Works on Cammy from like anywhere. I abuse the fuck out of it. Her hit box is wiiiide…so it can probably be used as a cross up in some situations, but (when I use) it usually looks like a cross up that puts Yun in front of her. Maybe it can actually cross up. Sure is nice in the corner anyway.
I was running some sets with some yun on xbl, it was a mirror match obviously, and he would cross me up with j.mk just mid screen. I was honestly thinking to my self “wtf… Thats not even a cross up” haha
have you guys tested it? because ive done the same scenarios i tried two days ago and blocked it normally, its a funky hit (hits in front and lands in the back is what i mean) but still puts you in a state to combo jab into BnB efficiently. will test more later after tournament
For some reason i cant get it too cross up even though i have seen it done to me weird. Although on cammy just standing mid screen at a neutral posistion i have gotten it to cross up but it was very verrrry incosistant. Anyway while in the lab I have found a really cool safe jump setup/ mixup. Too much to write so il probably make a video about it soon, its pretty cool.
F. Throw Frame Data (Normal is 86frames):
2 frames slower - Cammy
1 frame slower - Sagat, Dhalsim, Viper
Normal speed (all other characters)
2 frames faster - Blanka, Dictator, Cody, Makoto
3 frames faster - Ibuki, Juri
4 frames faster - Ryu, Ken, Rufus, Akuma, Dan, Evil Ryu
Hsien : http://hsiensf.blogspot.ca/search?q=wake+up
Considering the above frame data I would assume that Yun’s safe jump (i) only works(as in it hits meaty on their wakeup, blocks on reversal) on normal characters:
Yun, Yang, Sakura, Oni, Seth, Honda,
Chun Li, Boxer, Gen, Gouken, Guy,
Dudley, Abel, Deejay, Hakan, Zangief,
Hawk, Guile, Elf, Claw, Fei Long,
Adon, Rose, Hakan
Is this correct?
To be honest I can rarely get it to work on anyone lmao. But I just suck at timing dashes for some reason.