Since I haven’t chimed in yet, my current favorite is the jlf with a kowal actuator and a mistakenly undersized octagonal insert from FA that gives it a really short throw. Also really like the LS-40, which may take the crown when I get my hands on a short throw bastardized octagonal gate from Moonchilde.
Used to run one of Kowal’s JP shafts, which are well designed, but just sit a bit too low for my taste. O.G. Suzo allows for a little more finesse as I can get a solid grip. Fun stuff. I still keep a Kowal JP shaft and battop combo tucked away in the VLX.
Buy the normal silencing kit and put a note to swap in levered versions. I doubt there is any price difference but if you are concerned about that message them real quick.
I just remembered that many of UltiMarc’s sticks are twists on the JLW which means exact same restrictor-gate plates since they are admittedly interchangeable, that and the fact that they do sell an OCTOGONAL ultrastik 360 restrictor gate, it implies that the said octogonal custom part (apparently not made of acrylic but needs confirmation) can be installed ina genuine JLW .
downside: outrageously high priced (around 25 bucks on ebay, without postage) , and is shipped with ultrastick 360 special screw bushings (unnecessary for genuine JLW)
There’s even a guy selling a rounded octogonal nylon restrictor gate for JLW on shapeways dot com.
( http://www.shapeways.com/model/269646/sanwa-jlw-series-octagonal-restrictor-plate.html?modelId=269646&materialId=6 ) Not the slightest clue if the tolerances , finish and feel are good . The user also made a custom housing (for JLF?) in nylon too, but with something hayabusa-esque in the sense that it has 4 ergots protruding in the socket , supposed to hold the pivot with minimal surface. Minimal is an understatement, I personally don’t think it’s going to last the slightest bit, but his custom restrictor looks interesting. He claims the finish is grainy, I hope it’s just not on the gate’s internal surface which contacts the actuator.
(13 USD is still high in my opinion, compared to other custom restrictor plates out there…)
@sethian0
As for the right D2RV Omron to use in a particular stick (here LS40 is mentioned) just go to http://www.omron.com/ecb/products/sw/11/d2rv.html to see what suffix you need to place after “D2RV” , which is according to the type of lever. For LS40 you have the hinge lever , light 25gram force D2RV-L and the heavier 50gf version D2RV-LG.
Good shit @Agieze. I’m sure many people will find that useful. I think the square gate is great on the JLW, personally, but I digress… I may have to give that custom “JLF” body a go just for science. That said, who is this “guy”? Any insight?
@Nendo Honestly, no, I haven’t the slightest clue who that guy is. One thing is for sure, on that site, customer designs can end up being part of a public library of “printable” stuff, as often on that type of website offering exactly this type of service! There’s all sorts of materials (more or less porous and brittle due to process) as far as joysticks parts are concerned, I’d personally stick to polished nylon (or use grainy and polish myself with great care) .
If you put “joystick” in the search engine, you’ll see some other guys who made some custom gates for LS32 and some custom JLF inserts, one even available in stainless steel (but rough finish, I’d avoid that. Read details, they explain it’s not smooth at all, probably due to the 3D printing process using a filler powder to sinter the steel grains) .
The custom LS32 (not for sale anymore) one is made of a composite often used for 3d printing consisting of nylon and aluminum powders blended ( " Alumide" ). No use now, since Seimitsu offers its own octogonal gate, perhaps it’s not for sale because it infringes on seimitsu’s recent product? The shapeways design has its merits, but I’d stick to tough nylon grades instead.
The concept would be much better if it involved CNC tooling machining instead of 3d printing. alas cost of bits and machining out of blocks is in another league in terms of price and the trend is to 3dprint left and right!
If the same person could send the company a JLW square restrictor CAD file to have it made out of polished nylon (which they offer as a possible option) , it would be even cooler, octogonal is a curiosity for me too, I prefer square.
The tma-12-15 looks more like a prototype of a hybrid joystick plate with incorporated pivot socket (with something hayabusa in mind more or less ) , but it seems there are no screw holes nor pins to secure the rest of the stick/housing nor the microswitches. Just a prototype for who knows what unfinished product this dude had in mind.
One thing to be careful of is that users have reported, and yes I have experienced, that shapeways’s prints aren’t always 100% exact.
I had a phone case printed a couple of times, first time fit fine, so I tried it again in a different color (same material) just to see how it looked, and voila, it was magically smaller and wouldn’t fit. Same exact model, mind you.
So take that as you will, and it might have been the basic material having some oddities in comparison to some of their higher quality prints, but just keep that in mind. Also, the SLS basic poly material isn’t printed in the colors other than white, they’re tumbled and colored post-process IIRC, so that could have also added a difference.
@Phreakazoid I’m afraid you’re right and I had my doubts about companies who propose all in one solutions. Have you ever tested emachineshop for custom parts? Or is it another one of “those” companies who promise a lot but charge a lot and deliver so-so end products for low volume orders?