Xbox One fight boards

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I have a friend who is interested in an Xbox One fight stick. He may have to look at a custom fight stick, I told him, he was one of the friends of mine that trounced a future Cable TV video game winner, because he cockily thought a right handed joystick couldn’t improve a game that much. (although in his defense, he was on a Sega Genesis 6-button Pad, and at the time of Street Fighter 2 New Challengers, didn’t think a joystick, let alone a right-handed one can be of any help. How wrong he was.) And everyone had some trouble with a left stick against this future TV Gaming star, but the right handed stick’s record was perfect that day, me against everyone there, and everyone else against Zophar321.

I told him if you’re going to pay bucks for a custom joystick, don’t do a half-way job. Get it right handed and increase your ranks on the leaderboard. If he can afford it, get it E-Z-Ambi modded like mine, He said he wants it only for the Xbox One S. He has a Wii U and Switch, but is not concerned about either as of yet.

  1. Currently Xox One fight sticks go for $200 for the “vanilla” model. Are there any off-the-shelf fight sticks for the Xbox One that can be modded for righthanding? Keep in mind the problem of rotating the stick 180% degrees and getting a smiling set of buttons as opposed to frowning. If there s a $200 joystick that can be easily converted, let’s go with that.

  2. Assuming none work off the self, I can’t seem to find an Xbox One ONLY fight board. If he’s going to get an Xbox One fight PCB, is the only way to get it is the Brook Universal Fight Board with the Wii U and Switch built into it too. (Neither he nor I own a PS4, and we both own Xbox Ones, Wii Us and Switches.)

  3. I tried calling Microsoft about using the Xbox One Adaptive Controller as a PCB for a right-fight stick. They said there was no way to do it and it was specifically designed for people who can’t sue a standard controller well. (Kind of like a right-handed joystick player?!?) But I know no one at Microsoft thinks of it as a fight-PCB board, and most people on Shoryuken have enough imagination to consider it. Heck I considered it when I saw there was no Xbox One Only fight PCB board, and I don’t have that much technical knowledge.

He said he wouldn’t pay extra for a Switch and Wii U Fight stick adapter, but based on the prices of an Xbox One Adaptive Controller vs a Brook Universal USB Fight Stick, and since plugging inunaithorized USB cotrollers don’t violate a warrantee, it just might be better to go universal and get more systems for the same price.

By the way, his electronic labor knowledge is similar to mine, except I discovered how to clean 2600 and Astrocade potentiometers and install INTV flashback adapters on an INTV 1, and I could do am NES Blinking Light Win, if it were still available. And if he’s more clueless than me, that’s saying something.

PS) My Joystick maker is coming along slowly but surely, mainly because I’m not rich enough to pay in one felt swoop. This last coming month of Apri,l will get all the necessities done to test the concept, and by May, I’ll have a fight stick for the 8 Cthulhu systems, and assuming a single adapter works but a double adapter does not, PS2-> Xbox 360, PS2-> Xbox One, PS2->Wii, and GameCube->N64 and PS3 USB -> Switch When I’m done I’ll ask if I can have my friend hire him. becuse I doubt most other other joystick modders will put up with my shananagans. One person tried to up sell me on something I didn’t want, which cost a hire. So if this works, anyone can ask for the “TripleTopper model” and have unique features thought of by me (NOT NECESSARILY FIRST THOUGHT OF BY ME, so I do acknowledge others may have had similar concepts before me, but thought of by me independently. But it’s good to know a joystick maker succeeded in this and had it work, so there’s no question of whether it will work or not.)

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The Adaptive Controller can 100% be turned into an arcade joystick, but it’s way overkill (price-wise) for that effort.

Just a get a standalone XBO PCB:


And a Phreakmods Crossbone adapter PCB:

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Thanks @freedomGundam. Wya cheaer to get an officxial Xbxo One than the Adaptiv controller. The only advantage might be easy to swap button arrangements, but between a) my solution and/or b) the Xbox One OS button mapping system (except for triggers not mappable to any other button and vice versa on the X1OS), this might be a ceeheaper option, weven if he wants button remappability.

I only got one question, my previous modder had a tough time getting LS, RS, LT and RT working because they are analog. Last time, during the Xbox 360 era, 2 of the 8 buttons were unwired. Is there a special analog->digital conversion process needed for those analog buttons to be actuated digitally? (less important) Is there one for the thumbsticks? Last time I was told @gummowner is able to it. But he’s so busy that, if it’s not a trade secret, maybe I can get my guy to look at it, and see if he understands it.

If either it’s spoecial and he can’t or it is a trade secret, can you do a digtial wiring of the official Xbox One PCB for the triggers at least? Do these PCBs have DP/LS/RS switches like the Brook and many professional fight sticks? In other words is it a specific fight stick PCB or is it a standard controller PCB?

If my friend needs all 8 buttons wired, and the hired stick maker doesn’t know the secret to making analog triggers actuate digdigitally. I think I may have stumbled upon a Solution. A Power A enhanced Wired Pad has two things the fihgt pad might not, and te Brook definitely does not. One is a 3.5 mm chat headset hole. The other are 2 “ring finger buttons” on the handle of the controller which can be assigned for alternate locations for actuating any D-Pad direction or button, including LSB, RSB, LT, and RT. If we let Left Ring = LT and right Ring=RT, since I believe these buttons are digital, you don’t have to know how to actuate an Analog controller in a digitial manner, because the PCB has it already built in.

3 steps 1) press a separate program button, 2) press desired function to be assigned 3) press ring finger button to be assigned to, and viola, instant Analog->Digtial conversion for a pad hacker. Plus the regular price is $30 and is an Xbox Authorized Third Party wired controller.

Finally, he knows he wants an XBox One one, now on a separate question thread, I’ll ask is there any “joystick selling games” on wheither the Wii U or thew Switch, and if there are also other good fight stick titles, but not quite an essential. But that’s another Thread, to keep on topic.

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Most variable-resistance-based analog triggers are straightforward to hack if you understand the theory behind a variable resistor.
You just need to solder ~10k ohm resistors between the signal and GND, and signal and VCC, then wire up the signal to your button.

The same theory applies to analog stick inputs, but the complexity comes from having the opposite direction tied to the same signal lines. Gummo did it because he liked modding/tinkering with stuff (or a client asked him to); most people just never care for it because there’s rarely a need for it in fighting games.

XBO and Dreamcast use Hall-effect sensors for their triggers, so it’s different on those; though if you use a Preakmods Crossbone for the XBO PCB, any prep should be already done for you.

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Get an Ambidextrous body from AllFightSticks.

The 14.5 inch Ambidextrous bodies are sold out, they’ll be back eventually.

You’ll need other parts as well, but it’s a cheap solution! Also, get a Brook Universal PCB. Compatible with Xbone, Switch, and lots more. Just ask if you need more help with this. I’m currently shopping for an ambidex fightstick as well

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I guess I’ll have to ask my modder whether it’s easier to follow the directions you mentioned above, and buy a $40 Xbox official PCB, or whether it’s easier to buy a $30 official pad, with 2 ring finger buttons, assign the ring finger buttons to the analog triggers and just do straight digital wiring. Is the Power A Enhanced Xbox One Wired Controller easy enough for any modder to tinker with? I heard some brands are better than others. if it’s one of the easier ones, then we got a 3.5 mm hole and 2 analog-to-digital buttons, but no DP/LS/RS switch built in.

By the way are any of those PCBs classified as specific “fight board pcbs” with DP/LS/RS switch and analog buttons wired as digital. The control phreaks one has digital buttons, what about digital “analog sticks”?

One last question: Are there any examples of games on the Xbox One where a fight stick might be preferred, but does not work with the D pad and requires an analog stick for movement. One example I found was Metal Slug Anthology on the Wii, which only used an analog stick at home, but the arcades have a digital stick, as all SNK Neo Geo games have. Anyone else know of an example, specifically one on the Xbox One, download or disc? There’s no reason to pay extra for a DP/LS/RS switch if none is needed, or the only ones needed are not liked by my friend.

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Nope.
The Crossbone add-on PCB only breaks out the d-pad. And due to the nature of the stock sub-PCB, you have to solder separate wires for the B button and both triggers.