Xbox live security update = massive banning

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The more expensive way, go MS!

But yeah, for those who are thinking of getting their Xbox modded soon I would leave it for a bit. Just to find out the in’s and out’s of how MS are finding out about the modded consoles. Personally I now have a seperate Xbox for playing online with. The modded Xbox is good enough to warrant buying a seperate one for XBL (if you play regulary enough) imo.

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Ya I soft modded my xbox which is a mod that does not use a mod chip, just a crack in splinter cell and a program to mod the box. I dont know if its my buddy that didnt put the right files into my box but when i try to dl the new xbl update a black screen comes up saying that xbox has had an error in like 5 different languages in shit. Does that mean my xbox is already banned or did my buddy jus mess up?

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True, true! I played with an old buddies modded Xbox back in late 2002, and we were rocking on old-school everything for days on end sometimes. Then there was that one weekend in early December 2002 were we blacked out after a weekend of continous Samurai Shodown 2 and…

No!

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What happens if i mod my xbox but have both the og hd in it, and the aftermarket larger hd in it, and just switch to the og when i go on live… can they detect that?

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Yes, still not banned. Come on Bill! Show me whatcha got!

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For those who haven’t kept up on X-Box Scene:

Basically, MS seems to be checking for TWO things on Live–

  1. For the first time you sign on Live ever since Live 2.0 came out about a year ago, X-Box Live records the combination of the serial number of your hard drive + your EEPRom. Basically, since they have no way of knowing exactly what hard drive is in the X-Box you own, they just do a check the first time you get online, and Live thinks that the HD they record belongs to the X-Box.

In a nutshell, if you get on Live with your original hard drive, you have to get on Live with that hard drive forever, otherwise that X-Box will be banned. If you upgraded to a larger hard drive AFTER signing on to X-Box Live, you will be banned unless you put your original hard drive back in. If you don’t want to do this, you’ll have to get a new X-Box for Live.

Conversely, if you get on Live for the first time with a non-original, upgraded hard drive, your X-Box WILL NOT be banned as long as you continue using the same hard drive with Live and not switching. If you signed on Live originally with a NON-ORIGINAL hard drive, you MUST use the same one. If you go back to your original hard drive, you will be banned, even if you remove your mod and any foreign files.

  1. The other thing that Live seems to check for now is whether or not you have any trainers installed. Trainers are files that help people CHEAT, which MS has made clear they don’t want. If you used “Slayer’s EvoX Auto-Installer” to set up your modified X-Box, it installs a lot of trainers, so BE SURE to delete them BEFORE logging on to Live. This seems to be the main thing affecting people who have never even changed their hard drive, but have a mod of some kind.

There DOES NOT seem to be any file scanning for French Halo 2 saves or different dashboards on the C: drive as some other people have theorized.

Good luck, and be careful. As of now, following these two simple rules seems to allow everyone to keep playing on Live with a modified X-Box. If you ever notice that your Microsoft dashboard or a new game asks you to connect to Live to download an update before you can play, STOP IMMEDIATELY and check the xbox-scene forums to see what the update is all about and if they are banning more people for different reasons.

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i too, banned=sad. i had to resort to xbconnect.then my modem locked me out, but thats for a different reason.

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Dude that doesnt sound right to me at all… What happens if you have more than one Xbox or you go round a mates house and use your live account on there Xbox??? obviously your HD serial and EEprom wont be the same if you use more than one xbox so your saying you can only use live on the xbox you first signed in with??? Smells Fishy to me!!!

Not trying to start shit just asking… :tup:

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I had that same question, but I came up with this hypothesis.

Maybe you are not banned because you didn’t log on the SAME IP, with different hardware then your orginal. Logging on an xbox live account with your live name on any other xbox probably would not have the same result because there was no hardware mod on your IP. Microsoft probably had this in regaurd when the live service was created. Which probably means you could even log on modded xbox’s with your gamertag and not get banned at a DIFFERENT IP. :wow:

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The thing is this…

If the EEPROM AND the HDD change, then it detects you’re using a different Xbox.

If the EEPROM doesn’t change, BUT the HDD changes, then you’ve switched your HDD.

There are reports now of just changing the HDD key in the EEPROM with a valid key and it goes back to Live…

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To all the cheaters who got banned…

You deserved it.

GGPO.