Wikileaks is now 3-0

First the HIV virus mutates incredibly rapidly, so we are always encountering different strains of it, each being more deadly than the last.

Second the main reason that HIV doesn’t kill as many people is that infection rates are down. This isn’t due to some miracle pill, it’s due to people using condoms. HIV is a disease that you are really going to contract by needles and unprotected sex. Both situations are completely avoidable. It’s not like another virus where you can pick it up from a cough.

The vast majority of the fight against AIDS is going to come down to people not catching it in the first place by not being stupid, not some “eureka, we can’ finally cure a virus” pipe dream.

Again, you aren’t going to catch HIV unless you’re sharing needles or having unprotected sex. This is something completely avoidable, which is where virtually all the gains in combating it have come from.

Again, completely avoidable.

There are other diseases that kill far more people but are curable. But because they don’t have as vocal of a propaganda group behind them they get swept on the the rug. Where AIDS is dragged out to gin up votes and support and if you don’t sign over a blank check it’s advocates go straight to playing the race card.

The left isn’t the only group that does this, but this is about AIDS, and the left owns goofy political games here.

I didn’t complain about it. I just pointed out that there are worse problems out there, and if this one did not give liberals a chance to play politics it wouldn’t be dregged up constantly.

Atheism is, liberalism is not. But I’m neither conservative or religious, I just have 0 problem calling out either side

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying AIDS isn’t a problem. Anything killing people is a problem. It’s just that people complain and act like we are doing nothing to fight AIDS which is very, very far from the truth.

BTW, I’m neither conservative nor liberal (I actually agree with liberals on a lot of issues) so I definitely know conservatives are full of bullshit with many many issues. But in this specific case it is the liberal side that is bullshitting like we aren’t doing enough for AIDS and playing the race card. And I’m definitely an atheist as I will bash religion every chance I get, funny thing no one cares when I bash Christians here but if I dare say something about Islam then I’m an ignorant racist, but I digress.

About the original topic. I’m all for leaking gov corruption, but the recent leak hurt foreign relations more than revealed horrible things about our gov. Probably the most damning thing is Hilary asking people to spy on diplomats for what is probably blackmail purposes. I’m actually looking forward to the leak about banks though.

Getting off the subject of aids, This is my standpoint; The system we live in is fucked because of political parties, shit is going to happen to drum up votes and funding and all forms of bull shit, am I ok with it, fuck no. Am I childish enough to think that I can change things or do something about it? Fuck no. When anything is getting done thats actually positive though I’m all for it. Are there other diseases that probably need more research into? Sure, but am I glad that HIV is getting alot of funding? of course I am.

The whole wikileaks thing ( back on topic ) is getting out of hand, they have the right to do this but at the same time they are getting to the point where some serious shit is going to go down, and its all unnecessary. America is obviously a evil conglomerate illuminati based country but shit man, this is getting ridiculous. I’m conflicted because this is my country and my home, but some of the shit I’ve found out is tottally fucked.

Oh and btw the jersey shore thing was definitley a joke, kind of, part of me is worried a whole generation of morons is going to start acting like that.

Yet. Sexually transmitted diseases will always be an issue as long as people run around willy-nilly screwing everything in sight. Some cultures celebrate that and lo and behold, they have the highest infection rates. People need to get responsible and show some damn discipline. Rubber-up!

A lot of the blame for HIV in Africa falls directly on Catholics and their moron Pope. The constant dogmatic propaganda about condoms being evil and shouldn’t be used to prevent AIDS has done nothing but increase the spread of AIDS. Glad the Pope cares more about his dumbass religious views than people’s lives.

Catholics, muslims, budhist and atheist Countries are affected

china and india have as high an infection rate as somalia

and fuck africa, any time somebody like france and germany try to police people call racism/imperialism then some cannibal dictator takes over and calls for another genocide

Fuck assenge honestly. It bugs me that he is australian more than anything. All he is doing is saying shit we all assumed anyways.

Wish wikileaks was formed by mel gibson

That’s not true, there are some things you can do to mitigate/stop the spread of viruses; unfortunately we’re far less effective at treating viruses than bacteria.

Bacteria tend to be far more deadly of course

and if you think a scientist is going to choose loads of cash for keeping a cure secret, or loads of cash + international fame + immortal prestige and glory for ‘finding’ the cure?? c’mon. conspiracy theorists at every turn

Dude: tons of places are getting mad bank to research AIDS. You think some idiot’s gonna ruin his own gravy train? The money is not in the cure. Fame, sure. but hey, you cured aids…how you gonna get money NOW? Your work belongs to your employer, not you. The cash for it goes to your employer.The money is in the research. Somebody’s probably sitting on cancer cures right now…cuz they make dat bank off research grants. And if the government is as corrupt as people think, who’s to say they wouldn’t stall the release indefinitely, or just silence things? After all, there are lengthy approval processes. The guy can’t just open a window and shout “We cured it!!”.

lol, this post was fucking great. :clown:

oh no…SOMEONE ATTACKED MY WORLD VIEW. earmuffs

pathetic…

Correct. My father exemplifies the “I believe stupid shit I can’t prove or even reasonably back up if my life depended on it” trope.

When the “Dumbest Poster of 2010” competition comes up, I’m going to nominate so many fucking people.

Ditto.


Step 1: Invent “cure” for AIDS.
Step 2: Withhold cure and all its advantages, both to the general public and the cure’s discoverer.
Step 3:
Step 4: Profit!

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There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons.
James Randi Educational Foundation
Top 20 Logical Fallacies - The Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe

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specs, you’re a moron.

see, I can argue as good as you…with less typing/inane shit.

BURN. I mean, you TOTALLY flipped the script. Man, you really highlighted how flimsy Spec’s 100% reasonable and accurate observations are with your cutting wit. DUDE.

SWEET.

I’m shocked anybody could compare aids to diabetes with a straight face.

I’m also a little confused as to why trying to do something about aids and HIV are considered bad. Yes, there are other diseases and viruses and all kinds of shit out there that will kill people. What’s so wrong with trying to knock a name off that list?

How could anybody seriously think research with the goal of eradicating the spread of a virus that’s killed millions of people is a worthless cause? And skip the “Internet logic” that makes people argue against a point simply because they said something without actually giving thought to how far they were willing to argue to take it.

yah, and your post was a shining example of a rebuttal s well.

what’s unreasonable about this statement? ignoring all the liberal references.

lol, qft. The idiot types a lot but says nothing. He needs to return to being a forum gimmick and let the big boys talk about politics.

Who are you talking to? No one said AIDS research is a bad thing, no one.

El oh el.

Think you’re attributing that quote to the wrong world view attacker there.

Eat shit.

When I was 10, my mother, in a fit of anger, threw a remote control at my head. It fucking hurt. It fucking bled. She fucking laughed, then, when I got pissed off at her, she got pissed off right back, saying something to the effect of “you should have respect for your mother.” She also once slapped me with a fish, let me nearly pass out in an idling car while she chatted with her friend about fuck all, and gets upset with me for talking to my father after a messy separation. She is an imbecile of the highest caliber.

My father, as mentioned, insists that America “fucked up the world.” He uses Panda over AVG because, I shit you not, “Europeans have more ethics.” When reminded of who first enslaved the indigenous peoples of Africa and the Americas, he insists I’m “brainwashed.” And despite having a fairly good rapport with him recently, what with my brush with cancer (that ended up being nothing serious) and his ending marriage, I never forget he’s the man who refuses to become a Canadian citizen because it means, and I quote, “bowing to the queen.” He also once, when I was in junior high and got beat up by bullies who I did nothing to wrong, called me a “cunt.” He’s also an imbecile of the highest caliber.

This topic, and people like you that post drivel (then have the audacity to claim themselves “big boys”), remind me a lot of my batshit insane, idiotic parents. You equate serious social and political issues to inconsequential conversations between you and your loser friends, come to wildly unreasonable conclusions, and target assists with Air Vagina Sand Beam semi-infinites like insecure small dogs who think they’re alphas bully things smaller than they are when someone says “hey dipshit, it’s extremely fucking dumb to draw an out of left field conclusion from the initial premise of a topic just because you desperately need something to justify your myopic view of the world.”

Then again, from the quality of your posts elsewhere, it’s entirely possible your parents were similarly worthless people who, despite thoroughly exploring stage 1-3, the first fortress, and the hidden oasis east of the second palace, lacked enough warp whistles to reach the level of human intellect necessary to raise a son (or daughter, if your vagina is both figurative and literal) who understands basic shit like “no, bitch, the left isn’t masterminding some conspiracy to turn AIDS into an anti-conservative rhetoric” and “hey nice job not realizing a malady, viral or otherwise, can be cured if proven effective therapies basically, barring distribution issues, make said malady a non-issue, you stupid fuck.” In which case, I’m sorry you haven’t realized the mistake your parents made X+0.75 years ago, where X is your age.

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