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I’ve been having trouble with fighting games in general, but I’m talking about AE in particular. I’ve tried different characters, but I was mostly playing Guile. I’m not certain how strong my fundamentals are. I’ve playing a turtling game while trying to find an opportunity to get in and do damage I’ve been throwing out SBs and walking up behind them and trying to follow them up with mixups, trying to use different tools like crouching forward, crouching roundhouse, backhand, etc. I learned to use FK sparingly. I don’t know any good combos, but I never feel like I get any good opportunities to land them anyway. I have a hard time getting in on fireball characters. I often find myself putting up a decent fight, winning one of three rounds, doing a lot of damage, gaining life lead at some point in a number of matches, but in the end I still lose most of my matches.

Actually, I’ve been playing casually for at least a decade. Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to find a scene in any of the places I’ve lived to help me improve, and I’ve never had any good players to practice with.

I can’t find a scene where I live, and I don’t know anyone who’s interested in playing offline.

Perhaps. But wouldn’t the other online players have the same disadvantages I do?

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Can’t find a scene…have you checked Regional Matchmaking?

I know Oklahoma has a scene.

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Thanks.
As far as I can tell, the Oklahoma scene is mostly in Tulsa, and that’s a 2.5 hr drive from where I live.

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Better for you to go to the scene…than wait for the scene to come to you.

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It just isn’t a practical option for me. At least not now.

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Fuck some bitches. Get drunk and play online. Now you give 0 fucks about winning online.

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Oklahoma city has a scene the same as tulsa. your just not looking. If you want to play people more than whats being offered why dont you host casuals at your place? People will go.

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Ah, if I may say something about mindset. You want to get better, correct? Yet you seem to be looking for quickfire tips and solutions. Taking a 2.5 hour drive doesn’t seem like a practical option to you. But say you talk to the guys, find a day when you can take the trip all the way down and meet up with the most of them and just indulge in hours of playing. While you are playing, you get to know the people, as you get to know the people, you guys get to discuss the game, you guys get to discuss other things to keep from getting too tired of the just playing the game, and you’ll learn on and off the game. Then hell, make the most of it, hit up a bar or something afterwards. Make it a day to have fun and play FGs. Don’t think of it as some chore or task, that’s how you don’t get better.

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Yeah, it just depends on how much you want to get better. I can sorta sympathize on the whole “too far” thing. Playing other real lfie players and playing different styles is how you get better, though. Online is not a good indicator of skill as tournaments are played in real time, not online. And no matter how little lag there may be online, there are a lot of things that you can only learn from playing offline.

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You have your execution down? Most people who say that are actually not there. Can you do Guile’s cr.lk cr.lp cr.mp xx flash kick consistently? Can you do flash kick fadc ultra 2 consistently? s.lp s.hp? Corner b.hk, cr.mp xx sonic boom, cr.hk? Consistently means at least 85%. If you think you have that, go into training and do the combo 20 times, see how many times you get it. Otherwise you have something simple to work on. You can’t have close-ranged offense in SF4 without a hit-confirm so if you don’t have that, don’t even try.

Playing Guile involves patience, iron will, and fast reactions. You talk about using cr.hk, in general that’s an awful idea because if they block the first hit they can fucking ultra you for free. You shouldn’t give up a charge just to walk behind a sonic boom. Using b.lk to advance is a good way to maintain offense.

Guile doesn’t get in on fireball characters. He wins the long range/mid range war. If you want to play lots of close range offense, don’t pick Guile. You have to be good enough to match their fireballs with charge buffered Sonic Booms. You have to anti-air every time with cr.hp, air throw, and sometimes s.mk. You stop people from walking in on you with Sonic Boom, s.hp, s.hk, and cr.mk. Guile is a walking fireball trap. They can’t keep up with him because their fireballs are weaker to jump-ins, and you have backfist and U2 to punish fireballs at mid range anyway. They can’t jump because of cr.hp and air throw. They can’t focus because of sonic boom + backfist/s.hp. Guile is fun because he’s about just outplaying the opponent with fundamentals.

Stop blaming your weaknesses on your lack of a local scene. Even if it’s true, it’s not helpful. You have online resources - Youtube, SRK character forums, online frame data, etcetera.

Stop whining about not having a scene and post here. http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/oklahoma-thread.1260/

Oklahoma City is like 30 minutes from Norman according to Google Maps. If you can’t make that, you don’t really want to get better. Here’s an event that happened literally 2 days ago from Oklahoma City. http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/oklahoma-thread.1260/page-269#post-6688571

The problem with online is that the online game is literally a different game because certain things become impossible to do on reaction because of lag. For example, anti-airing Zangief online with Guile is a nightmare. Anti-airing him offline is pretty straightforwards.

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I just played offline for like 2 months and I just got better I would suggest charge chars.

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I’m not a vet or anything but have you tried looking into frame data?

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Posting a video of your play will help us immensely if you are seriously looking for critique. I also highly suggest bettering your matchup experience overall and taking a look at the character subforums.

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Just relax, losing is the 1st half of getting good. No one here can tell you how long that half will last.

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you suck because you are new.

get good scrub

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The first guy I guess got it right, you don’t have to post about how you suck, that just means you’re discouraging yourself, you’re going the right way, practicing and playing matches, all you need is experience, a win will come someday, it took me like 2 months until I finally got 1 win in vanilla street fighter 4

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Well if your losing then its because your getting hit. So technically you need to improve on defense. Very important. If your play ssf4 or stxt, then you need to have a good Anti air game. If your playing umvc3, then you need to stop sitting there and move yo ass. Almost constantly. Also a good defense is a good offense. Being offense to limit your opponents offensive pressure. Safe pressure always. Knowing when to jab.

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The answer is in the way you phrase your question.

Believe in yourself.

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This genre takes a long time to become proficient in – we’re talking about a year’s worth of experience before you can truly become fluid in your execution thus freeing up more brain power for mind games rather than trying to remember combos or critical execution. Honestly, keep at it. Every new player knows how you feel, and every veteran player can tell you that they’ve been there before, and although the improvement is not SUBSTANTIAL on a daily basis, it definitely exists.

I started playing 3SOE to get into fighting games. Despite it’s flaws I am really enjoying it thus far (but that’s besides the point). I picked up a sparring partner off of ranked matches quite early on, someone who was substantially better than me. We didn’t really talk much, just played a hell of a lot of matches when we were both online together (the rematch function is honestly one of the greatest saving graces of 3SOE). We’ve been doing it for months. Recently he messaged me after our last bout of fights that I’m really improving hard. I used to be real ass at combos, but I’m starting to land a lot more of my BNB’s consistently, and getting solid punishes in when the opportunity arrives instead of freezing at that critical moment going “Wait, wait, how do I do this again?”

So keep at it. If you get pissed, try to push past it and keep playing, go back into training mode and brush up on your execution, but by all means don’t push yourself to the point that it’s mere work rather than play. There have been several days where I’ve picked up the stick, gotten spanked five matches in a row and grown so salty I don’t even want to look at my Hori. The point is: you aren’t alone, we were all there.

There is no magic answer that instantly makes you better. No, you’re not missing anything. Just think about it – every character has at least –

Standing normals x6
Crouching normals x6
Forward/back jump normals x6
Neutral normals x6
And several close standing normals (~x4)

That’s already 28 moves that all have their own methods of spacing and execution to be effective before we even talk about supers or specials, all of which typically have three different levels of power (four if EX) which all represent fairly original moves in their own right (slow fireball is a much different beast from a fast fireball or even EX fireball).

And this is all across a cast of 20+ characters in most games.

Learning all of this information is DIFFICULT. Takes time. So take your time, and enjoy the ride. :slight_smile: