Why and when did Turbo 3 become the standard speed?

[7_5_0]

If I understand the ST platform standards correctly:
Mame: JP Speed 2
US Speed 1

HDR Classic: Speed 3?

GGPO: Speed 1

Yes?

[DNGR_S_PAPERCUT]

The default speed for arcade ST is Turbo 1, so isn’t that the way the game was meant to be played? Otherwise, reversals and execution in general wouldn’t be so flipping hard.

When did people get the bright idea to bring it up a few notches? Well, it was probably the arcade owners that made the decision.

Everyone plays it on the Turbo 1 setting in GGPO, and yet, you have people playing on Turbo 3 in HD:Remix. If arcade perfect ST is so important, then why isn’t everyone sticking to its default speed?

Capcom made speed settings because when they made Super SF2, they fucked up and made the speed to slow. No one wanted to play it because hyper SF2 was much much faster. ST came out with faster speeds to get people playing again. In the US, everyone went to the fastest speed so that became the standard here. The Japanese version doesn’t go as fast as the US version so they stuck to the fast possible speed they had. We went 1 up, but went back down a notch to match with the Japanese standard because all the American OG’s retired and the new school players want to match with the Japanese speeds in case we ever manage to get Japanese players to show up to American tournies.

[oldschool_BR]

Capcom made speed settings because when they made Super SF2, they fucked up and made the speed to slow. No one wanted to play it because hyper SF2 was much much faster. ST came out with faster speeds to get people playing again. In the US, everyone went to the fastest speed so that became the standard here. The Japanese version doesn’t go as fast as the US version so they stuck to the fast possible speed they had. We went 1 up, but went back down a notch to match with the Japanese standard because all the American OG’s retired and the new school players want to match with the Japanese speeds in case we ever manage to get Japanese players to show up to American tournies.

According to Gerald (LA_Akira), SSF2 was being developed in Japan based on CE. It took them quite some time to get the game done. Prior to that, Capcom USA got the green light to develop a response to the several CE hacks which were flooding the arcades, which is how HF came to be. That is, they never really slowed the game in terms of development, it was Capcom USA which had increased it before SSF2 was complete.

I wonder how much western arcade operators influenced the speed decision. They have always seen customers as an inconvenience, and tried to make players lose as soon as possible. We have always had the machine on hardest and the fastest speed. SNES HF and SSF2 aside, the first time I saw a speed selection prompt was actually in Alpha.

[DNGR_S_PAPERCUT]

According to Gerald (LA_Akira), SSF2 was being developed in Japan based on CE. It took them quite some time to get the game done. Prior to that, Capcom USA got the green light to develop a response to the several CE hacks which were flooding the arcades, which is how HF came to be. That is, they never really slowed the game in terms of development, it was Capcom USA which had increased it before SSF2 was complete.

That would make sense as to why the speed was so fucked up. So once the US players got a hold of hyper speeds, no one wanted to go back.

[Unessential]

According to Gerald (LA_Akira), SSF2 was being developed in Japan based on CE. It took them quite some time to get the game done. Prior to that, Capcom USA got the green light to develop a response to the several CE hacks which were flooding the arcades, which is how HF came to be. That is, they never really slowed the game in terms of development, it was Capcom USA which had increased it before SSF2 was complete.

I wonder how much western arcade operators influenced the speed decision. They have always seen customers as an inconvenience, and tried to make players lose as soon as possible. We have always had the machine on hardest and the fastest speed. SNES HF and SSF2 aside, the first time I saw a speed selection prompt was actually in Alpha.

That makes sense! I mean I’m pretty sure hyper fighting was one of the most popular versions of SF2 they made a design choice to speed up the game AND IT PAID OFF! WHY would you slow the game down again?!? That person should have been fired l lol but after reading your post I had one else of those "OHHHH!” moments where a lightbulb just clicks

[Ganelon]

The default speed for arcade ST is Turbo 1, so isn’t that the way the game was meant to be played?

The default speed on the game board itself isn’t consistent in all versions. Japan default is Turbo 2. World default is Turbo 1 (equivalent to JP T2). US default is Turbo 2 (equivalent to JP T3). So we’re actually playing on the default US speed for tourneys right now.

[oldschool_BR]

In this video, Otochun decreases the speed down to 1 before facing Blanka (second match):
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I had seen D also decrease the speed before, in a 15 v 15 East vs West event.