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Couldn’t ignore this. I really did try.

So, you think Capcom intentionally gave Viper a way to hit confirm into her Ultra without meter by sjcing her normals? That they deliberately set out to make sure Viper could do that? I could easily spin this round and say how you do know whether or not Capcom knew about SJC FADC, maybe they did know about it. But c’mon, use a bit of common sense. Capcom obviously didn’t intend to give Viper the ability to cancel normals into Ultra from the get-go. It was discovered by players and Capcom decided to include it as part of her hard trial. Same with SJC FADC, it was discovered by players.

If you still want to keep saying that it’s “just my opinion and I’m making assertions” then prove me wrong and go ask Capcom whether or not they intended to give Viper her sjc stuff, lol.

Yes, I know I was implying that. In fact, I straight out said it. Where did I deny that I was implying that?

See, this is why I have explain sjc fadc constantly to you because you don’t seem to understand anything about it. Yeah, she can sjc fadc off normals, but only with normals that can be sjc’d and she can’t get ultra off it. Not particularly that useful other than to close distance. Since the dash is a regular one and not the fast one you get from a FADC, there’s not much advantage to doing this, just gimmicks really. The only way to connect Ultra is to do a Seismo.

Being able to cancel your normals into Ultra is far better than Seismo sjc fadc, but Capcom left it in.

See the paragraph after your first quote. And lol, at “terrible exploit.” If it’s such a terrible exploit, then why does nobody apart from you have a problem with it? Loads of Vipers use this in tournament settings. Man, such a terrible glitch! Lol, if you actually played Viper or had done your research, you’d realise why it’s nowhere near as broken as you think. We’ll see in SS4 whether or not Capcom agrees with you and removes it. And I find it really funny that you say I’m full of it when you come in here talking all kinds of smack and calling everyone nubs, hence the reason why I called you a troll.

If you still wanna argue, I’ll take it to PMs.

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Phenomenub stop being a cry baby and go somewhere else :lame:

it’s embarrassing seeing you get all irate over which pokemon is the strongest

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It’s totally pikachu.

Also [media=youtube]7goZUYGXAHA[/media].

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free post

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Meh, I think canceling an EX armored special into an ultra is “worse” than SJC FADC. It seems more unnatural to me, but who cares? Both of those are in the game, and there’s nothing we can do about it nor accomplish anything by arguing about it.

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Yeah they did it deliberately, there’s no mistake in why they did it either, and that is to make her rush game even better; I’m talking about sjc flame kicks, but that might be too advanced for you, but try to understand why you can sjc on hit and ON BLOCK, just try to imagine.
Those are 2 different game states and its highly unlikely is an accident, also why can you do it with jab or fierce but not with roundhouse? it would definetely be too cheap with roundhouse.

So basically you were hurt because I called you a nub, and you called me a troll, so you are not a nub right? lol

I’m not arguying about it, I’m pretty sure its an exploit regardless if the rest of this forum is on denial, I’m also lobbying for it to be removed in ssfiv but i doubt it.

Also you’re really cancelling an ex seismo into ultra? lol do you even play viper?

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Well they better take out stuff like Karathrows too then, because its almost exactly the same thing. As well as kara-ex moves, armor into ultras and any of the other various ways the system transmutes properties from one move to another.

Seriously if they got rid of this it wouldn’t matter all that much for viper just a few less ultra setups. But they’d get rid of other Kara’s too and then ken would be in the big shitter.

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Ken’s already on the big shitter in case you didn’t know. Also your example it’s completely irrelevant, heck, your entire post is completely irrelevant.

Karas do not require using two bars legitimately with every character, nor do all 25 character have it therefore your example is atrocious.

My argument is that c.viper has access to a meterless fadc using exploits in the sjc game mechanic. Everyone else in the cast has to spend 2 meter bars to achieve it.
Random people keep bringing in random arguments, comparing normals sjc, ultra setups even kara cancels to justify this terrible exploit as legit.

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You say you’re not arguing yet you’re still posting as if you’re trying to prove a point? Whatever.

And I said canceling an EX armored special into an ultra (i.e. Absorbing a hit with 'Rog’s EX Rush Punch and quickly canceling it into his ultra), you numb nuts.

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With terrible sentences as…

is hard to know what in the world you’re talking about, I suggest taking some adult classes on your local high school you numb nuts.

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Wow, one grammatical mistake that happened at 3 in the morning compared to the handful of grammatical mistakes I see in this single post alone. Please work on your grammar before telling me to go take some adult classes. It makes you look a lot less like an idiot than you already do. It also doesn’t change the fact that your reading comprehension took a shit and didn’t realize that I mentioned the word “armor” in my post, so lol @ canceling Viper’s EX Seismo into ultra. Don’t blame your shortcomings on me.

BTW, I fixed it just for you! Keep on trollin’.

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You’re the one calling people “numb nuts” when your own sentences are horrible. I’m usually one to look at himself first before others xcept when nubs like you come out of the woods at night.

Your defense was that you turn 8 years more ignorant when you post at 3 am. My defense is I didn’t try to decipher your sentence, or pick up your “key words” I’m not a 5th grade english teacher.

As for your actual point, I think is as irrelevant as the kara cancel argument earlier. If all 25 characters in the game had to spend 2 meter bars to use an armored super into special and only balrog didn’t, then I would be lobbying for a removal.

Furthermore some people in this thread will swear is a legit game mechanic, and also fair.

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Why are you people responding to the troll?

Let him get bored and wander to a different character’s forum.

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But do you think they intended to give Viper the ability to cancel into ULTRA? Maybe that’s a little too advanced for you since you keep mentioning flame kicks and normals when I’m talking about SJC into Ultra.

Oh, and I know how to SJC Burning Kick thanks, you’ve probably just learnt how to do it and now you think you’re the shit.

No, I’m not hurt, just find it funny and quite ironic that you called me arrogant when you came around here calling everyone nubs when you don’t have the first clue about anything to do with Viper, which would make you the nub here. I explained why SJC FADC is fair, but you don’t wanna know. Do you even use Viper? And either way, you’re burning meter because you’re using EX Seismo, regular Seismos are slow and people can see it coming a mile away.

And lol, you’re such a wasteman, love the way one person made a grammar mistake and you’re all over that.

Yeah, I know, need to stop feeding this troll. Next time I won’t even bother, I’ll just report you.

EDIT: Just contacted a mod. Though this was partly my fault for not letting things lie, sorry everyone who had to put up with me arguing with this dude.

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I’m not all over them, i replied to their post in what I thought they meant, then I was called a numb nuts, AFTER that I replied to his insults. So get your head out of your ass and stop making me the primary suspect for everything in the world.

Your so called explanations for SJC FADC fairness are all full of assumptions and bad comparisons. Your latest justification is that SJC FADC is fair because you are using meter on the EX. SEISMO.

not once have you justified why SJC FADC should be free to c.viper when the rest of the 25 characters in the game have to use 2 super bars.

I find it funny how you call me a troll when you keep coming back after all your points keep being dismissed by superior logic. You keep saying, this is my last post, I won’t come back, I’ll take it to PMs, I won’t feed the troll, its just hilarious.

And no I won’t come back to this thread if its finally removed from ssfiv, so don’t worry about it.

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Is it that important to finish all the trials. Also do you get a sense of accomplishment if someone else does it for you?

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Well he’s got the achievement then!!1eleven

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People aren’t bringing in random arguements. They make sense towards what your talking about. Kara’s are made possible because of the transfer of move properties that the system allows for. THis is what sjc FA is. You karacancel the startup frames of a superjump into an FA then dash cancel. Only notable for its one (hard) use of making it possible to do FFF xx ex seismo sjc fadc ultra making for a more reliable once you get downt he heavy execution way to land an ultra midscreen. Its not like it makes her super good, people barely use it. Even if everyone gets hella good at it, it never puts you at heavy frame advantage and in general is just a parlor trick outside of the one setup I mentioned. You make it seem like she’s the only character that can roll cancel or some shit.

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^
No point. He doesn’t get it at all and just dismisses anything you say as “assertions” and “assumptions” and calls it “superior logic” despite people clearly explaining to him as to why he’s wrong. The guy’s a moron who hasn’t got a clue about anything. And Phenomenub, you need to pull out your head from your arse instead of me.

The only correct thing you’ve said in this entire thread. I was a chump to keep rising to the bait in the first place. Oh well.

Anyway, I called a mod. Hopefully this crap will get locked down.

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It might be similar to a kara throw but throws don’t cost 2 meter bars, they’re both exploits but only kara cancel has been confirmed by Capcom and purposely integrated into SFIV, whereas SJC FADC has not.

I think both sides have a point, and Capcom should clear it out, money matches coming up? ;p