JATOSS
1127
Try your best not to push too many buttons if Bison has you on the defensive. Honestly, even if you have to take a grab, just take it. Bison does not have any scary set ups off a grab.
V-reversal the heavy attacks like CrimsonPugilist said, very important to get him outta your face. For me lately, I’ve had a little bit more practice against Bips and neutral jumping/ back jumping around scissor kick range has worked pretty well. Don’t abuse it or you will get found out but it’s a nice spacing tool you can use once in a while.
Otherwise business as usual. Get that knockdown, pummel him, create space, Vtrig and Super stocked up for when you need it.
I forgot I posted in this thread so sorry I didn’t give any ids. I did have another set with a bison that was better than the one that made me post the initial comment I did, and we ran 2 FT3’s and he raped me as well. I do feel I did a little bit better against this one because I was a bit more patient and just blocked a hell of a lot more instead of trying to push buttons. I think a lot of it may just be that I have hardly faced any Bisons and don’t know the matchup at all. Hell I don’t even know wtf his v-trigger does. When he popped that and did the devils reverse where he basically teleported and landed on the other side of me, I was like WTF?
Went on a 15 win ranked streak today, started abusing st hp when I got the opponent cornered and v reversalling ever damn thing reseting the ground game… I purposely tried to win without v trigger.
Coming from S1 Ryu I’m only now realizing the importance of v reversals.
Frost
1131
Wrong thread fuck
Yes Rog’s VR is fantastic now, it lost it’s biggest weakness which was leaving you point blank
So in season 2 they got rid of his BnB when in V-trigger, where you can do the rush with punch, then rush with kick, and then cancel with V-Skill punch, and juggle with EX dash straights into uppers? Because I cannot for the life of me hit the V-Skill punch after the rush with kick.
EDIT:
I’m referring to this as @Frost stated it a lot better than I did lol.
I know it’s not the most preferred method to discuss/save matchup knowledge, tech, etc, but the Rog discord is an incredibly useful resource to help improve your game. There are a ton of helpful players to help you out and dissect your gameplay if needed. I’ve definitely learned a good amount from the players in there and its become my go to spot whenever there’s something I can’t figure out. I’ve also started joining other character discords to find skilled players of other characters, as a means to really learn a matchup.
Here’s a link for anyone who’s interested: https://discord.gg/e9hWWkH
By no means am I suggesting that the posts and threads here be left behind (heh heh), but I have noticed that there is a much more active stream of information and knowledge being shared in the discord.
Bill
1134
What do you guys use for most of your mid range whiff punishes? I feel like 5HP and 2MK are the ones with the most range but the former has a lot of startup and the latter doesn’t really lead to anything without V trigger. Also, is there any reason to use 2HP as an anti air over 5MP other than being caught by a jump in while holding downback?
I’m fishing with s.hk a lot as well looking for cc’s. Not sure if that is considered whiff punishing as im throwing it out preemptively but its a great button.
I also use c.mp and buffer it into lp.rush punch at max range.
But the two buttons you mentioned and these two are like 90% of my neutral game lol.
The only advantage of using cr.hp as an anti air other than damage is it beats deeper jump ins where mp whiffs.
Bill
1136
Thanks, ( hadn’t thought of buffering to add range to my whiff punishes! By the way, do you actually train bjj or is that just supposed to be a cool name lol?!
Lol yeah im a brown belt but have trained submission wrestling for about 16 years. You train?
And what do you mean supposed to be??!!
I do have a wicked darce/brabo though.
B)
Bill
1139
Yeah I’m in my second year of training now–still nice and white lol! I trained boxing for some years but bjj is better considering my day job and I’ve kinda seen the light in terms of grappling’s usefulness/effectiveness.
I get caught in darces a lot in no gi and I especially hate the feeling of all gi chokes…so rolling with you would absolutely suck…BTW shouldn’t you be playing Laura lol?!
If you train with someone who has a good front headlock game (ie darce/guillotine/anaconda) and they can switch between them it can be hard. Defending one often makes another easier. Concentrate on keeping your elbows on your hips and alternating between chin up to defend the bravo and tucking the chin when you feel them switch to the guillotine. Keep tight and hand fight. You’ll start to figure the rest out.
Tried Laura but ended up with Ryu for most of S1. Boxer is just too much fun though.
Bill
1141
Thanks! I constantly hear “keep your elbows on your hips” but for some reason that’s one of the hardest things for me to get into my memory–gotta work on that. And the more I train the more I’m realizing offense is about chaining attacks instead of just going for one.
And boxer is definitely a blast…For now…I’m dreading the upcoming nerfs. 
What’s your VS 3f jab characters block string?
c MP, s MP, s LP, and it confirms into b,f+MP after CH c MP, s MP or b,f+LP after s LP because b,f+MP doesn’t combo off of s LP. s MP has limited range so only use in-close. c MP, s MP is only a combo on counter-hit as well, like all of Balrog’s medium,medium button strings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbTdXSCO9Kk&feature=youtu.be
Why is Cammy such a bad matchup for Balrog? I suspect it might be because she’s good at punishing him but I don’t look at frame data so I really don’t know.
I dont think she’s a bad mu for boxer tho, you have st.mp to aa her divekicks, tap for throws and if they try to shimmy you and they are the type to react at something to throw a st.hp your tap will hit them, you deal big dmg against her low life and can fight her more or less at neutral with dp and whiff boxer’s good normals (cr.mp st.hp st.mk cr.mk)
