Vega already got a name change! He used to be Balrog ya know.
Here is a high level smash bros match where some guys are using a turtle beach
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Well yeah, Blanka would probably electrocute himself to death if he drank the water.
I have to admit, at times I feel like I act like this Blanka fellow. When things start going wrong, I tend to get overly emotional and vocal about them and it leads to worse and worse playing.
I also play with about 2-3 other people regularly, pretty much every day. They definitely fit the profiles of the “equal” and the “pro” in that I have really close matches with one all the time, and the other absolutely destroys me pretty much every time. I have a lot of fun playing the “equal” but going 1-20 or 1-30 against the pro is just downright disheartening.
The thing is, though I’ve been trying to practice and learn as much as possible, I can’t see where to improve and when I ask the “pro” about what I’m doing wrong, I usually get silence or “i don’t know”. I don’t know if this is fear of losing the edge, laziness, they just don’t care, or if they really don’t know, but it makes things very frustrating.
So as bad as it sounds, I feel like I can empathize with the “Blanka” fellow.
I need to tattoo that “Don’t train hard, train smart.” article on the inside of my eyelids…
I have the same problem.
A friend of mine plays a pretty good Rufus and Abel.
When he loses to me he says Gouki is ‘A BS Character/Broken’.
He even wrecked his SE stick playing casuals over at another friend.
Even at tourneys he beats his stick up if he ate a reversal or misses his ultra.
Edit: At the last tourney where they were playing 360, he borrowed someones stick cause he plays ps3 AND HIT THAT TOO.
Man, if someone hit the stick I earned money to buy… I dunno. It’d be on somehow, even if I only peed in his water bottle or something. Its not cool to destroy other people’s stuff.
I actually agree with Blanka on some things, especially 1button throws. I like to talk when I play too. Not full conversations but the occasional “holy fuuuuu” when I mess something up or don’t jump out of Gief’s ultra range. Or when someone busts out a flashy combo you give em a “Niceeee!” or a “Mothafuuuu”. It’s all fun though, it gets boring when people are completely quiet. It sucks that your training partner is overly negative though, cause you can’t really change them. Like others stated, I think the best thing to do is focus on your own game. Get better than Blanka, much better. Then just beat him convincingly and I forgot if you’re better than Ryu but worry about beating him and forget Blanka. He’s combo practice.
On the stick thing. Yeah, I lend my stick to someone and they hit it, not cool, let them know. They hit it again, I take it away. Don’t care if they’re in the finals at EVO. Unless it’s your close friend.
this is what i do…
if someone complains about throws and its clear they cant tech them… I just throw the shit out of them… sometimes getting perfects doing so. If Blanka gets mad at this style of play, I would laugh and then do it again. I would actually never stop doing it until he can beat it. I would do it so much that I would attempt to make him quit the game. Whatever he complains about, I will continue to do it until he boils in tears. Its the only way he is going to get better or it be the easiest way to get him to quit playing fighting games which sounds like would be the better decision.
wow, that’s some story, to be honest i know a couple guys like this but they don’t play SF they play YGO, it’s pretty much the same thing (“THAT CARD’S BROKEN!” "WHY DID KONAMI ADD THAT SYNCHRO S***!“BLAH BLAH BLAH”) the best thing you can do as his friend is try to approach the subject and talk to him about it, if he flies off the handle, oh well, nothing will change him, but the best thing you can do is be the bigger man, learn from his mistakes, and become a better player, because if that blanka dosen’t stop he’s never going to get any better, and that’s his fault, the best thing you can do is be his friend and try to help him, and if not you did the best you could. My experience is slightly opposite people make fun of me and my friends ALL THE TIME because we LOVE fighting games, even other “gamers” (i use that term loosley) give us S***, but what can you do? you can’t change everybody. (unless your doctor doom >< )
anyways, i hope this helped.
doesn’t always work. One dude because I “Play to win” thought I’d be the kind of person to gloat and teabag in halo too because I play to win in every game.
I always thought that referring them to an article is the silliest thing ever.
“STOP BEING CHEAP MAN, I’M TIRED OF YOUR TICK THROWS”
“Oh yeah, well read this article! Ha!”
In my opinion, there’s 2 things to do:
1 - If you’re tired of the trash talk about Tekken, destroy him. I’m not talking about 10-4, I’m talking about 100-0. Also, taunt him a lot and ask him where his button mashing skills are.
2 - If you’re mad he doesn’t listen to you, then you gotta be the best and just completely and utterly destroy them in fighting games. You can argue all day about Sagat being top tier but IMO it doesn’t really matter if you’re just playing between friends, and the only way to prove it is by dominating them.
People get mad all the time. It happens. Sometimes I’ll laugh when I drop a combo. Sometimes I feel like throwing my TE through the wall and screaming obscenities. It’s something everyone deals with.
This thread is hilarious. Right when I read, “Let’s call him Blanka” I just started cracking up.
In all seriousness though man, with my Psychological background, I can only suggest that it might be time for some new friends? This is much more of a personal problem than it is a video game problem? - I imagine that video games aren’t the only place where you guys have this type of issue?
If you send me a pm, my secretary will reply and we can set up a date and time to meet and help you work through these issues.
Best of Luck,
Quick Man, Licensed MFT
Wow. Just wow. Explain to me how this is helpful? Sure, you get him out of your face one way or the other, but I was under the assumption they are at least somewhat friends and enjoy each other’s company as they play?
I don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to explain/teach someone like this? Explain what’s going wrong, show possible work-arounds, practice on each other and you both get better quality fights in the end.
Either he’ll eventually humble himself and learn, or give up completely but that shouldn’t be your goal if you’re playing with friends. At tournaments, sure, everyone man for himself. Online, ok, you probably might never see them again so who cares? But among friends why not help each other to become better?
The most frustrating thing is not understanding why I’m losing or certain things are happening. If I can at least pinpoint it (through my own observation or others’ help) at least I can shrug it off and make a note for next time. Not knowing makes it it seem less…acceptable.
It’s unfortunate, but the gentleman in question isn’t going to change. He may eventually come around on his own, but probably not.
What does Ryu think of the banana riding situation? Just curious.
There are folks who behaved in the manner of Blanka in my local group, but they don’t last long, because they aren’t welcome. Getting momentarily angry and walking off every once in a while only to apologize and recognize it as a poor decision is one thing, but consistently acting like a complete prick because you aren’t getting your way is entirely another. Life is too short to deal with that shit, even from a friend. The rule for us is simple: if your behavior is having a negative impact on everyone else, it’s time for you to go.
I know how it is.
I know some players who are downright bad, and they always tend to be the most vocal about “how to play”. They give tips to people who are straight up way better players, unsolicited. When people try to give this person advice, they completely ignore it. They do stupid shit in every match, and despite the community’s best efforts to teach them that what they are doing is stupid, they continue to do so.
You can’t win this in the scope of the game. The way you choose to handle it is up to you. This is not a game problem. Yes the guy is wrong, but that’s not the problem. Cool people are wrong all the time and you just work it out like adults. Idiots like Blanka have a bad attitude, and it’s bothering you. You need to make a conscious choice to avoid hanging out with this person. Unless this person is at gatherings you go to that you cant live without. In that case, call him out. Either do it directly or talk to him calmly and say to him that he is ruining the atmosphere for you. I think if you call him out aggressively or tactlessly in front of friends he will feel humiliated so he may be inclined to instigate a fight with you to save face. So I recommend talking to him honestly and calmly first. Tell him you respect his right to see things however he wants, but to be more respectful of those around him, and that he’s ruining the environment.
Sometimes people aren’t trying to be an ass, they’re just idiots. If this person is really your friend, tell him. Maybe he never realized what harm he was doing.
/2 cents.
Just stop playing fighting games with him? Tell him it’s not fun and maybe he’ll learn he can’t act like that.
This doesn’t really fit the story or what you are asking, but it seems relevant to me. I have played highly competitive pool for over 15 years and there are really great parallels between that sub-culture and the fighting game sub-culture (with pools culture having a long and developed history to draw from) a few things I have learned over the years:
-Some people are just bad losers, not necessarily bad people, but bad losers nonetheless.
-It is a competitive game, and that draws competitive people (who do not like losing!) People will be frustrated. Whether you go 9-10 or 0-10; there will be frustration for losing. It is all about how you manage it (this coming from someone who beats themself up for losing, I am getting better though.) Find the key moments where the tide turned and assess.
-Hero worship (Ryu in your story) tends to become a bit protective, Blanka will defend Ryu’s mindset even if Ryu is dead wrong or it is an opinion (I have seen this countless times in pool rooms with a Shark and his/her guppies). Seek out other opinions, invite another heavy hitter to “rectify” the opinions, or ignore and shake your head. I had a big money player telling me that high level pool was the most difficult sport on the planet, complete subjective bullshit but all the scrubs were tripping over each other to sniff his taint.
-A lot of people will never take that step to up their game and “personalize” it. They will play for “fun” and get frustrated when they see someone of a similar skill level get better before they do (usually through regular practice and playing a variety of people who are better than them). They are the scrubs of the pool room. Take their money (or free beer if they don’t want to gamble)
-At some point in time, everyone gets frustrated by the game, but very few will look back and pinpoint why and address the problem in their game.
-Most of the time when someone is acting all pissed, it is because they are mad at themselves for their play, a real man/lady will explain to the opponent why they are salty and apologize(actually a bit of shark, because you can implant certain levels of doubt in their game). A real player will have a routine to “reset” their approach. Mine is washing my face and hands a la Jackie Gleason in The Hustler
-Complaining about a certain game (9 ball is cheap because anyone can win; 8 ball is too easy because there are so many options to go for; One pocket is boring) means the person is not a true player. They are a tourist. Agree to play them at the game of their choice and ignore their opinion.
-If a person doesn’t respect your equipment (arcade stick, cue whatever) then they don’t respect you. do not play them again unless they are an ATM.
You can lead a Blanka to water, and you can also drown him.
Make him see the truth!
I feel like he understands it but he just sucks and thinks it is cheap. Its called tough love. Its how I got better. and also, your right, I dont have lame friends like the OP so its hard for me to relate.
You need to either address the problem so that you can “save the friendship” or decide to draw away from that person. Friends are not family, and sometimes situations in life change. I used to have a best friend with whom I shared a lot of cool experiences…but eventually, I kind of outgrew him. His maturity level actually seemed to regress (“Yo, how many phone numbers do you think I can get tonight??” "Um…I don’t care?), and eventually, we had nothing in common anymore.
It’s harsh, I know, but it happens. Be civil, but friendships are not in permanent ink. Ask yourself, is it worth the headache?