What it will take to put Skullgirls on the main stage at EVO next year

any fighting game is hard for someone who has never played a fighting game before. also smash is not a real fighting game.

the hardest thing i found with SG was getting used to every character having different weights, but im past that now.

edit : also i dont think specifically targeting casuals is the right way to go with this game, but then that depends on how loosely you use the term in the first place.

You should expect it to stop soon honestly. Because the updates to IPS count crouching normals and standing normals as the same thing. So my Filia juggle combo with 5 supers won’t work anymore :frowning:

sigh

I guess folks is content with making SG the Virtua Fighter of 2D.

Shoutouts to this thread getting filled with a bunch of half-empty forum trolls who ain’t got nothing contribute outside of “it ain’t gonna happen.” Then again, this is the problem with the majority of the community on this site anyhow, too content to just sit and talk shit and not actually step up and make a damn difference. Not just on this section, but most of the damn forums. Straight up disrespect to those of us who’ve sacrificed time, money and even our physical well being doing stuff for the community.

Maybe make a thread in FGD with a title like “Why aren’t you playing SkullGirls?” so this way we can understand what is keeping some people away from it. Because I’ve never heard an actual answer to that question outside of the traditional “the game only has 8 characters” excuse, everything else has been general assumptions about why people don’t play it. That said most of the answers won’t even be stuff the community can fix, but things we’d have to relay to Mike Z for review to possibly make it more appealing on a broader scale. But the answers that are said which the community can work on, well, the community can work on them.

EDIT 2: Apparently this entire post was one of the dumbest things I’ve done in quite awhile.

Unfortunately, there are some glaring issues with the game as far as peoples’ thoughts just going into it, not even from playing it… I won a marvel tournament about a week after SG released and put up my prize money (not insignificant) as the prize for a free-to-enter Skullgirls tournament and only 6 out of the 30 or so people (not including myself) at the tournament decided to play. FOR A CHANCE AT FREE MONEY. Getting it into more majors and onto more streams will KoF-ify it a bit by making more people wanna play, but it doesn’t even have a playerbase big enough to make those tournaments successful anymore, so something like the above post should probably happen so we can figure out what to do on a lower level as well.

This thread is for coming up with ideas to help get this game into Evolution and to bolster the community, not what you think it’s apparent flaws are, what the developers should or shouldn’t be doing, and anything else. Please provide helpful suggestions to further the topic, if you want to talk about all that other stuff please do it elsewhere.

don’t be deceived by KOF entrants. The number who actually played was probably half of that. This is because when you signed up for KOF, you got a free shirt, so many people were just signing up (10 dollars) for a 20 dollar shirt. There were a lot of brackets where people would just be in winners finals because no one actually showed up to play. even then, a lot of people who did show up were those who had never played before and were in it for the shirt.

so do you what KOF did, give away a free shirt or something with signup. your signups will most likely automatically double.
this would also get more people playing the game because i am sure those people who just signed up for the shirt at least then tried to play to play KOF, and in my opinion, but probably gave up because the basic mechanics of KOF are fairly complicated compared to other games. skull girls is a bit easier to approach in that respect, and you would probably see a lot more people playing.

besides giveaways, giving it a large prize pool would also attract a lot of entrants.

having it as a mainstage event will get lots of people playing. people love competition, and it would give marvel exclusives something else to compete in. however, as for actually getting it to the point where it is announced will be the difficult part.

essentially, we can’t stop the momentum. skull girls was getting as many entrants as mortal kombat and kof at majors, and that needs to continue. this means reverge continuing to work extremely hard to support the game, which they do a great job at, and more importantly, players continuing to show up for tournaments. it makes me mad to see so many people say “oooo no way not enough people support this wonderful game that i love, its impossible for it to get on evo mainstage” when they have NEVER travelled to a major or a tournament to play. unfortunately, and harshly, they are part of the problem.

there are going to be several empty spots at evo next year, so this is our chance. i challenge everyone here to travel to at least ONE major tournament sometime this year to play skull girls. if KoF made it, so can skull girls. When KoF came out, so many people were doubting its ability to do well at majors, mlg, or having a spot at evo.

your silly. sooooooo soooo sooooo silly.

Sorry, thought I hid edit and instead hit reply.

Either way a good core group of people writing articles and making videos is enough. Online tourneys so we can have match videos people can easily turn into articles also help.

How about this, I give a whole lot of orders, organize all of you into a massive zergling army of content and you all call me King of Scalpels?

I did it for yeah, this game has no hope with you mofoz, scared of mofoz on the freakng interwebs and getting butt hurt and erasing shit when its not someone praising this freaking game

Why would you make that thread in GD? That’s retarded for a number of reasons the first being that it doesn’t belong in that sub-forum, the second being that it antagonizes people, the third through a million that you are fucking stupid for not having figured out the first two reasons by yourself.

Have some damn sense. If you want people to play it we have to show people things things that make them want to play it as opposed to taking a shit where they hang out.

im retarded and half a sleep but homie a few post above said he scared to put it up there and find out, so i did it for him,now its in the right spot fg discussion … its a video game forum…all post so far seem decent dont be a pussy lets see this social experiment pan out, if they put it on blast you can atleast farm data and get a good laugh and see what your obstacles are because they wont hold back…it will let you know if its a lost hope or a battle worth fightng becuase they wont be looking in this section

I guess i need to stop posting before 1pm. In hind sight I had a pretty bad idea after all.

It’s people who don’t play it or like it calling it hard trying to turn people away.

dont worry , just say it was all me , cuz it was, not like it would make a difference , most already made up there minds long ago and some might just downloaded it that did not before… not a damn thing to loss and maybee 2 dudes downloaded it

^Please ignore this guy^
I say just keep playing , and make it out to every local/major within your power.
Also try to get people in your scene wjho aren’t playing to at least try it out.
There’s only 3 people who play in my scene , but we have convinced people to try it out once the patch drops.

Best advice I’ve heard so far for this game getting bigger.

My two cents:
Skullgirls has a ton of potential that isn’t being utilized. While I think Reverge is doing a great job promoting the game, it’s ultimately up to us, the fans. This game has a bit of a curse. It’s a new IP made by an unknown developer, and the FGC by it’s nature doesn’t catch on to games like this that are, ironically enough, supposed to be competitive and balanced.

But I think in order for this game to catch on, we need to be doing more. Tournies, while great and all, won’t attract people on it’s own. A majority of the fanbase can’t attend a lot of tournies. What we can all do though is just be active in the community in other ways. For example, why aren’t more people discussing on these forums? We get a good topic like this maybe once or twice a week, then goes back to being a ghost town. Anyone here visit the skullgirls subreddit? (r/rskullgirls, by the way.) Because it’s even more dead over there, but when something is posted it gets at least 5-10 upvotes, and the patch notes got 50. I know you’re all here, and there’s a lot of us, so why not do more? Make discussion. Play online. Talk strategies. Post combos. Make tutorial videos. Spark some kind of interest about this game. If we just do that and keep this community lively then the game will start to grow.

It’s actually quite simple in the case of shooters. In deathmatch games, there is only one real “winner” and lots of “losers”. This means that losing doesn’t sting as much, because even if you’re the lowest scoring guy you’re still just one loser among many. This is not even counting the fact that in deathmatches you die quickly and respawn immediately. You don’t need to sit through a minute-long Dante combo or get trapped for extended periods of time by Dorm’s spells. You don’t need to keep getting tagged by Ibuki and Akuma’s vortex or spend an eternity in blockstun from standing jabs. You die in a second and immediately respawn, back to full strength and ready to play again. In team games it’s even better. Your buddies can help you along and even if you suck your team might win a couple of times. That’s a hell of a lot more fun than losing repeatedly every time you sit down for a game of UMVC3.

Most importantly, at the intermediate level where most people play, shooters are about strategy and tactics. Maybe your friends are better than you at jumping and shooting, but you can jump and shoot too. Maybe they can use the weapon more effectively, but you have the same weapons doing the same damage at the same range at your disposal. This is very inviting to casual gamers because you learn to get better at strategy and tactics by PLAYING THE GAME! Having fun and getting better from the get-go!

By comparison, fighters are something like 90% about execution at the intermediate level. The person who can do the longest, most damaging combo without dropping it wins consistently. Have you seen casuals play? They can’t even do special moves consistently. They need to train to DP to the left. They can’t even access the most basic tools in the game, and they’re up against people doing complicated combos with one-frame links.

That’s extremely demoralizing, because the way to improve execution is to just go to training mode and do the same combo (or special move) over and over again until you get it. That’s no fun. People want to play a game, and for a lot of casuals asking them to stay in training mode for three weeks until they can do Parasoul’s links is like asking them to take a four-year college course before taking a job at McDonalds. The pay-off isn’t worth the effort.

Just keep spreading the SG word to FG players and showing up for events. Watch the streams and do some of your own streams if you can. Upload match/combo/tactics/tutorial videos to the internet. Increase the visibility to FG players and hopefully they’ll support the game. Like I said, I think EVO is very possible, but if we’re gonna get there it’ll be on the backs of actual FG players.

For anyone who lives in NYC, Monday Night Mashfest has Skullgirls as one of the featured games. While I’m going as part of SfxT defense force I’m also gonna show SG some love. It would be great to actually play this locally for a change.

Nothing is wrong with SG. It’s just that not enough people play it.

If you want more people, you simply need to appeal to the masses, gameplay doesn’t mean shit. For example, if Arcana Heart 3 had the best Balance ever and played like a dream, it still wouldn’t get anywhere just because it’s Arcana.

Street Fighter
King Of Fighters
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
Skull…Girls?