Hitzel
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It’s worth noting that on the Xbox One, players can create new gamertags whenever they want and have full Gold status as long as there’s a Gold account on the Xbox. I’ve already made plenty of funny names on my Xbox One. Smurfing will easily become an issue on Xbox One because of this, not sure how PS4 works though.
This makes me feel that a system that takes into account your recent performance may be better than a long-term ranking system. I remember there being some kind of tournament mode in Vanilla Street Fighter where you had to win 5 games in a row or something? It seemed to match people based on how far they were into the tournament “brackets” and a system similar to that could potentially deal with smurfs since they would be matched via recent performance just like anybody else. All you have to do at that point is come up with a way to deal with sandbaggers.
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Maybe simply having a “winners bracket” and “losers bracket” in matchmaking is enough, where you drop back and forth between the two when you win or lose a match.
d3v
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Only the account that bought PSN+ has PSN+ on PS4, even if it’s pretty easy to create new PSN accounts from any region.
That said, the XBox smurfing wont be an issue anyway since the game is not on XBox One.
Straight up the street fighter franchise could be 10x bigger than it is if they made some of those changes, Capcom needs to step their game up
-better netcode
-more gameplay options
-better tutorials. They really need this, they need a way to ease newbies into the game, atm it can be pretty intimidating compared to other esport games
-agree about community made skins. It makes their life easier by allowing the community to create some amazing works and vote on their favourites, its a win win for everyone.
-maybe a crate system like csgo/dota that gives you more incentive to play, helps keep the community numbers up
this company wasn’t able to add a Rematch button online in SF4 after 6 years… and they botched the netcode when moving the same exact engine from GFWL to Steam
i’d lose all hope and expectations at this point…
I don’t really see what Valve’s Dota model and implementation has to do with SF. The only thing Dota 2 does to possibly draw in more casual players is offer a much more generous alternative to LoL’s business model. And the reason they get away with that is because they get a cut from every item sold on the market place, and they sell tickets to events and other items in the Dota store. And the genre itself has millions to tens of millions of players online everyday, unlike fighters. MOBAs to me feel like a more accessible fighter by “virtue” of having less to learn about each character, less muscle memory to build, and teammates who can possibly carry bad players. Obviously map knowledge and different strategies are a huge part of it, but when we are talking about low-level matchmaking, those things don’t really matter much anyway.
I think there are ways to make the genre more accessible without dumbing it down to Divekick levels of failure. But ultimately there would need to be tens of thousands of players online and a really awesome matchmaking system and netcode to really make people stick with it. And while the latter is possible, how do they achieve the former without spending millions on advertising(which might not even work)?
There are a few nice things about Dota 2. For example the in game community tab. You can create clans in game, you can create tournaments, you can have logos for your clan which are then displayed in game. Apart from that the parties are nice too. I also like the fact that you can search for a game and at the same time watch other people play.
Things I dislike are the way the workshop works, which was suggested by op. Chivalry uses the same workshop system and you will just end up having to pay 5€ for a single skin. I think it is better to add workshop support like in Insurgency or Left 4 Dead 2, so you can download content for free instead of forcing people to pay for it.
Not everything about Dota 2 is good to be honest. It’s free and therefore it has a horrible community.
d3v
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But clans have never been an FGC thing.
I don’t know if that is necessarily because it is free. Free games do tend to have that problem, but it seems more like it’s just because it’s popular. CSGO has a pretty bad community, and it has never been free.
ihira
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The closest thing I can think of is the ‘teams’ in 3D fighters. Its a neat feature that sort of gives a sense of belonging in the community.
A lot of the community features for dota2/csgo just doesn’t work or make sense under FGs which by nature are 1v1 games.
Perhaps the bigger factor is that dota2 is backed by Valve, a very flexible company that can run their business model longterm on their own flexible steam platform.
Can’t say the same for Capcom or namco or whatever under Sony’s (comparatively) restrictive platforms and public company business model that has to get dat short term profit and keep the shareholders happy.
Despite those differences, FGC is still growing annualy. Evo stream numbers are rising every year. Tournament payouts are higher than ever. Look @ the evo Sunday hall tickets sold out and over 1000 entarants already for USF4…on PS4! These are all good signs of growth.
The release of SF5 is going to get another new wave of players…very exciting!
When I say bad I don’t mean toxic, I mean they do bad things like being afk in a ranked match, losing on purpose and being totally stupid in general. In cs:go it is not that common to see people that make you lose on purpose, since people paid for that account and they can’t just create a new one when they get banned.
Also cs:go is probably not the best example here since that game was sold for like 4€ at some point or even less and people stacked dozens of accounts. I also have 3 cs:go accounts.
otter
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200 ping is pushing it, but cmon, 2 frames of lag can easily change the outcome of a street fighter match.
SF4 has multiple gametype modes but only 2 are used. I’d like less useless modes if they are going to have anything more than Ranked and Endless.
As for ranked, I’d like a better system for matching players up along with better made menu system in ranked lobbies.
I’d like to be able to see a player’s PP/BP, main character, regional location, disconnect % and if the player is playing on wireless or hardwired the very instant he joins my lobby without having to hit any menu option.
I think the costume DLC is pretty cool and would welcome it again in SF5. It would also be cool if they gave us some unlockable costumes as well. I also like the community made costume suggestion, but they should make it like a monthly contest with Capcom as the judges. Then the winner would get a prize or something and his/her costume bundled into the latest DLC.
d3v
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For costume DLC, they should follow Team NINJA and NRS’s lead by using fanmade designs (and maybe even actively soliciting them).
YorKeY
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That name is pissing alot of people off right now, the last thing people want is for anyone to be anything like Team Ninja at the moment, maybe you know what i’m talking, maybe you don’t.
d3v
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And that this has nothing to do with what we’re talking about here.
Daemos
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Are you guys in favor of character DLCs like KI and MK? I really am not. I think single character DLCs or ones that are not part of a full game (SF4 > SSF4) will really damage the community and divide the playerbase in ways we’re not used to as SFers. I wouldn’t want them to SELL character DLCs to begin with actually (this is why I like DotA’s approach where heroes are free).
I raise this because it seems to be the direction the FGC is moving in at the moment and I hope Capcom has the foresight to see how this will be bad for the game. There are SO MANY THINGS that they can sell that will not interfere with game balance like this.
d3v
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We’re likely getting them in “season” packs similar to KI where we get a whole bunch of them together.
