-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

k so reidar what do you recomend/thoughts on muscle milk?
magnus: im still taking what you said into consideration, Ill try an come to a medium.

thanks guys

Yeah and we can get SUPER TECHNICAL about every aspect of a person’s daily life if you want to. But there are no perfect scenarios…and which whey protein shake he drinks post workout is of little to no consequence if his other ducks aren’t in a row…and if he thinks a shake will be the difference between whether he gets cut or gets huge then chances are he prolly doesn’t. It’s the emphasis placed on supplements that cause people to lose sight of what’s really important.

Fernando’s Nuts…he’s gonna write a thesis on homemade protein shakes with maltodextrins, dextrose, and a whey protein with only this particular branching of amino acids, not to mention the other 37 compounds mentioned in the latest scientific journal…or in other words some shit that he prolly doesn’t even do…and you WON’T do. But I digress…carry on.

Sounds cool overall, especially your boss paying for additional certifications.

Whey isn’t even the issue. Muscle Milk has casein protein, which coagulates in the stomach and slows protein absorbtion. And solid foods take longer overall. The right protein shake isn’t the difference, but it’s a start. I agree that supplements shouldn’t be the main focus, but these aren’t hard things to do.

Optimal post-workout shake instead of Muscle Milk: whey protein, dextrose, maltodextrin, and some salt for sodium. Three of those aren’t even supplements, they’re food items. That’s not “super technical”. Your body uses up muscle glycogen during lifting. It needs glucose to replenish glycogen. Simple.

I know this question gets thrown around a lot, but I’m starting anew for the next six weeks. What is more effective to burn fat but still keep muscle:Intervals(go really fast 30 seconds, slow 30 seconds, etc.) or just cardio for 45 mintues? I usually on my exercise bike going 20 MPH(45 mintues and the calories count says 600).

I’ve completely cut out soda, candies, chips, fast food(for the most part) and drink 3-5 bottles of water a day. I lift weights 3-4 days a week, but I get ample rest inbetween days. Anything else I can improve on? I’m trying to be a better B-Balla:bgrin:

Awesome avatar.

It’s generally accepted that HIIT (intervals) is better for increasing endurance and stamina, and extended cardio is better for burning fat. For basketball, I would do interval cardio, but it’s about what your priorities are.

i just want to point out that the possibility of you becoming “huge” without doing steroids is almost none…

for the most part, the only way you are going to get “huge” is by doing steriods…so i wouldnt worry about getting huge…

im outi

Roberth

Depends, some people are just naturally big. My friend’s really strict on what he does and he’s 180 lbs. of all natural pure muscle. It’s just you have to be determined to achieve your goal.

When me and Roberth think huge…we are thinking 220+ shredded…which is possible minus the steroids but would take a long time

That’s pretty beastly.

Which types of stretching do you guys do?

Stretch the group you just worked on?
Stretch the entire body?
Or…no stretching whatsoever?

Eating: Before or after a workout? Does it really matter?

Both are important, before to power your work out and after for recovery.

Edit:

Anybody have any recipes or tips to improve certain foods?

Oatmeal
Chicken Breasts

Just started cutting… lifting three times a week, interval training once a week…I’m around 14% bodyfat, aiming for around 7% by august. Keeping diet pretty clean… so far.

Oatmeal
Brown rice
Brown bread
Broccoli
Chicken breast
Salmon
Tuna
Whey
Smoothies galore

I’m gonna start drinking some green tea… feeling so good eating healthy… haven’t cut calories yet, just eating healthy right now.

No stretching before or after lifting. Muscle fibers should be kept short during those periods. Stretching them elongates and reduces force output.

Dynamic stretching only before cardio. No static stretching.

I do static stretching for flexibility in the morning a little bit after breakfast.

Eat solid food around an hour to an hour and a half before you workout. After lifting, drink the whey protein shake with dextrose and maltodextrin.

After cardio, the nutritional demands aren’t so specific. Just eat something with carbs and protein.

indeed, although i still think it is very unlikely lol…

im outi

Roberth

how to get shred quickly ?? especially the abs >_>

HOLY SHIT. That’s CAN’T be right…right?

Warming up doing a set or two with light weight is better.

Like Romie said, warming up for weightlifting is doing light sets. Stretching beforehand reduces force output because it elongates the muscle fibers, reducing the stored tension in them. Keep stretching and lifting seperated.

hard stretching post workout increases satelite cell proliferation. Or so I’ve read…

We stretch every client post workout as they probably will not stretch on their own time and certain muscles if too tight can cause pain or even injury (hamstrings) You don’t stretch pre workout because as reidar said, it can kill strength…and can also increase the risk of injury by stretching cold ligaments and tendons before applying the rigorous stresses of weightlifting.

Splenda in the oatmeal and just a lil salt and pepper on the chicken breast…this won’t exactly be good or healthy but a little bbq sauce on the chicken breast is damned good…lol…or maybe marinate it in light italian dressing.

Question though…you say you haven’t cut cals yet…are you eating anything besides what you listed?? Because if those are the only food items you’re eating I can’t imagine your caloric intake being very high at all…how many cals are you taking in now, and when you go to cut cals, how will you do this when you are already eating this clean? Just smaller portions? Or are you going to cut out a meal or two??