-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

routine reduction

I go to the gym 3 times a week for an hour or more each time. According to Bowflex, I am some kind of sucker because I could be beating up the Incredible Hulk with a 20 minute routine.

I’m skinny, so I’m going for overall size and definition. Right now, my routine is:

Military Press (ant. Delts)
Lateral raise (lat. Delts)
Rows (post. Delts)
Pull up (middle back)
Dips (triceps)
Curls (biceps)
bench press (pectorals)
leg raises (abdominals)
leans (obliques)
hack squat (quads)
Dead lift (hams, glutes, low back)
shrugs (traps and I stand on my tip toes to work calves a bit)

I like my routine, but if I could get out of the gym faster, that would be great. Any tips for shortening this routine without cutting out a muscle?:wonder:

thats a shitload of workouts for one day, ESPECIALLY if you’re going 5 sets per exercise.

I used to do the same thing and learned that it was just a waste of time. Is there a particular reason you wouldn’t like to split the muscle groups between each day?

Ok, first things first.

You don’t get bigger by lifting weights, You get bigger by eating more food.

Secondly, Don’t do that much work in a session. Your CNS (Central nervous system) can only handle so much stress, and after you go past that point, any work you do becomes mostly useless because you can’t do it at a level that would benefit you.

Thirdly, don’t be a faggot, be a powerlifter.

You want more upper body strength? Do squats, it’s like taking testosterone, and will make your entire body stronger.

My first time here in this thread, here’s my situation in short:

I’m 21, 6’3 and weigh between 180-190 pounds (depending on what damn scale I use, and of course day by day). For most of my childhood and early adolescence I was skinny as fuck and had dat crack metabolism, seriously. It’s only in the last 4-5 years that I’ve begun putting on some noticeable weight and even still, I don’t think I’ve reached 200lbs to date. My arms and legs are pretty lanky, though I got a noticeable gut. What bothers me the most is that I have a fat/cheeky face, which looks ridiculous considering the rest of me is skinny. I’ve always been kind of “cheeky” (though not to the extent of Kanye), but now I’m starting to wonder if its my genetics or if my weight goes to my face first.

I want to get fit, at least presentable by summer time…thing is I’m recently unemployed and broke. Not just that, but I’ve never been to a gym so I’d most likely not know what the hell am I doing even if I had a membership and went. Is there anything I do well…without being able to join a gym?

Also, based upon my description, is my weight normal considering my age/height? And how would I go about trying to treat a fat face? I tried asking my doctor about it when I went and took my physical recently, but she didn’t know. shrugs

  1. First of all, forget if you are normal or not, that isn’t important. Set a goal and start working at it.

  2. Research, research, research. EXAMPLE: [ http://www.intensemuscle.com/10456-training-routines.html ]

  3. Get some oats and lean ground beef and rice. Cheap carbs, cheap protein. Frozen chicken breasts, if you can.

  4. Go to a gym.

  5. Squatz.

  6. ???

  7. Profit.

Funny, i have a friend who fits your description perfectly. Exact same height, weight, and a bit cheeky in the face with a bit of a gut but still skinny overall. For the longest time he has had the fucking magical metabolism and ate more than anyone i knew, until recently.

there are a bunch of workouts you could do at home without anything extra, or at least without having to buy anything.

Push ups
Pull ups - go to a local park
Dips - between two chairs
Situps/crunches
Leg Raises
squats - with a backpack filled with shit

If you could buy some DBs then you could get some decent workouts too.

With the DB’s you could do,

curls, overhead press, rows, butterflies, shrugs, lunges, squats, vertical rows… and a bunch more.

if you don’t like gyms, you can damn near get all the benefits of a gym at home with a nice power rack, bench, and weights. You can get pretty decent shape without, but to maximize gains you’d want to be able to add weight as you develop.

You’ll be spending over a grand but it’ll last you forever and in the end be cheaper than gym memberships as long as you stay committed. I’ve had my squat rack for 9 years and its still great condition. My bench went out last year, but I think that was my fault.

Have any of you guys tried the Perfect Pushup? Thoughts on it?

Quick question, and it might be a silly one, but is it ok to have diet soda/pop in a workout regiment at all? Or pretty much in general while lifting weights and trying to put on muscle?

I’ve always believed that diet soda/pop doesn’t really hurt, but maybe I’m being naive. I dunno. lol:looney:

Hope that helps. :tup:

Apparently Chocolate milk as a PWO drink is equally if not more effective than some of the more expensive shit out there like SURGE.

I’ve been trying that out for the past few sessions. Couldn’t tell the difference to be honest. I want to say my doms have been going away quicker, but fuck it, everything is a placebo.

What chemicals, precisely?

I’m sincerely curious.

Ass-part-of-meh is the devil, to be sure (as is anything else developed by Donald Rumsfeld), but a little insight into the specifics of the other chemicals would be appreciated.

Everything he said.

And most specifically, do heavy legs to jack-up your entire body strength.

Hit your squats, leg presses, hacks, etc.

It’s insane how much it helps everything else.

It is not merely like taking testosterone, it is making more testosterone.

I heard this as well recently. Seems like a decent idea, but what about the fat content slowing the carbohydrate absorption? I use ON mostly cause it comes with digestive enzymes in it. I’ve been too lazy to take the time to make my own PWO drink on trueprotein.com.

Not sure specifically since I took it from their forums’ FAQs, but a simple way to find out is using a soda ingredients label + wikipedia to learn more about the chemicals.

Whut up guys. I kno its probably on this thread somewhere but theres way too many pages for me to be going thru to find it. I started working out at Planet Fitness and as of now my cycle is upper body 1 day and lower body next day. I know that is not ideal to do your whole upper body in 1 day because it can interfere with other muscles and not allow them to lift to the maximum. Does anyone kno of a good site or a good 7 day cycle for the major body parts? Bi’s, Tri’s, Chest, Thighs, etc…

Thanks in advance

This may be of some use?

I didnt know this thread existed lol. Anyhootz

MANNNNNNN… Is it possible to balance weight training, School, and ur Main Goal?

CUZ like…

I was looking like get rich or die tryin’ 50… now i look like T.I lmao…

Have anybody balanced alot while weight trainin?

My guess is that if the current leader of the free world can fit in 45 minutes a day, so can you.

bout to hit up the local supplement shop to buy some protein and protein bars

need some suggestions if possible

im using ON 100% whey as a pre and post workout shake mixed with water

i was using Labrada V60 time release protein as a night shake before bed mixed with 2%

and ive been going through different meal replacement bars, last box i got were Zero Impact (440 calories 30g protein… didnt taste like ass either)

the ON 100% whey is cool so far (tons of flavors, not too expensive)

looking for a new time release protein (labrada is expensive)

any suggestions on a meal replacement bar?

It’s not local, but lots of people like trueprotein.com team skip. 11.09 a LB

My custom anytime mix from TP is…

50% Milk protein isolate (20% whey, 80% casein)
20% egg white protein
15% Whey Protein Isolate Ultra-Filtration
15% Soy Protein Isolate non-GMO

Serving Size 30 grams
Servings Per Pound 15
Total Calories 113.5
Calories from Fat 0
Amount Per Serving
Total Fat 1.06g
Saturated Fat 0.2g
Cholesterol 0.45mg
Sodium 131.8mg
Carbohydrates 0.69g
Dietary Fiber 0g
Sugar 0g
Protein 25.1g
Vitamin A 0mg
Vitamin C 15mg
Calcium 0.3mg
Iron 0.77mg

Comes in at $8.71 a LB Though I usually go for one of the premium flavorings for .75 more a LB.

You may also want to go 50/50 on whey/casein for post workout as newer studies are showing a benefit from the mix as far as muscle growth goes.

so the team skip formula is
34% Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration
33% Micellar Casein
33% Egg White Protein

what kind of protein are egg whites considered?

also thx for the heads up on the whey/casein mix for post workout shake

usually cant stand casein proteins (horrible tasting, clumpy, dont mix well)

maybe ive just had bad experience