-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

what are harmful effects to creatine? so far the only answer i got was from romie in the mens health thread - dehydration. is that it?

if so, why do the instructions recommend taking 4 weeks break from creatine after 8 weeks of use.

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Cause after a certian point your body gets used to it. When you stop taking it itā€™s like refreshing your body so it can accept it again.

Iā€™ve also heard that was apart of an old school of thoughtā€¦cycling off and then loading up againā€¦if youā€™ve noticed alot of the creatines donā€™t necessarily recommend a loading phase anymore eitherā€¦

Loading isnā€™t necessary. Loading is just to sort of rush your muscles with creatine, but it happens within the first week or two with taking it normally anyway.But stopping after a couple of weeks is. Like with anything else you do, your body is gonna get used to it and try to balance itself out. Thatā€™s why people hit plateuā€™s in lifting and dieting, cause they keep doing the same thing for a long time.

NO!!:amazed: Youā€™re supposed to lay off for a certain period of time because its stressful on the kidneys. If you overdose you can damage them, especially if your not drinking enough water. If you have diabetes, kidney problems, have allergies, or taking medication,
you need to talk to a doctorbefore taking it.

-Processed orange juice tends to have a lot of sugar in it.
-Can cause malnutrition and tooth decay in little kids,cause of the acid and sugar.
-stomach problems like gas and cramping.
other than thatā€¦

Doesnā€™t really do much damage to a healthy person. Itā€™s not that much of a concern.

And yes, I donā€™t know much about creatine, cause I never really took it.

BUMP

I changed my split up after doing that 6 day split for a monthā€¦and itā€™s like my body is powering up from all the extra restā€¦I havenā€™t gained any more weight necessarily but Iā€™ve seen stupid gains in strength, my bench for one and just about every other exercise. Iā€™m a big fan of making every single workout different in some way now too. For instance, if I did incline with a barbell last week, this week Iā€™ll incline with dumbells.

Romie didnā€™t you have some kind of injury or something?? Have you started lifting againā€¦if so what does ur split look like??

Fractured ribs. Iā€™m not gonna start lifting until mid-September. I havenā€™t really made a new split yet.

www.fitflex.com/ultralab_sterobol_review.html

I think thisā€™s it. Itā€™s made by ultralab (i think) so if itā€™s not try googling ultralab beast.

w00t! Iā€™m past the 50 pounds of weight loss mark now. I started in May :clap: :tup: .

Trying to lose about another 30 for sure, and possibly another 25 after that.

This is a lot easier than most people make it out to be, IMO.

What have you been doing?

I excersize but canā€™t stop eating trashā€¦seems itā€™s in my blood.

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More or less this is what i have done:

  1. Changed what I drink: I used to drink ZERO water by itself, i did not like the taste of it at all and VERY rarely drank it by itself. I drank mostly sweet tea, but also some sodas etc. Now i drink probably 98% water. When i eat cereal i have milk with it if you want to count that, and sometimes iā€™ll drink some apple juice. I havenā€™t drank tea since May even once i think, and soda is very rare, only when i am at someoneā€™s house as a guest or something and they offer it to me basically.

  2. Changed what i eat and how much i eat: I used to eat garbage, and lots of it. Dont get me wrong, i wasnā€™t eating dorritos for dinner or anything but Iā€™d eat frozen burritos for lunch every day with cheese, iā€™d have a sandwhich for a snack, maybe some pizza or a burger for lunch sometimes etc etc. Plus, i would eat way too much. Iā€™d eat snacks when i didnā€™t need anything etc.
    NOW i eat a salad for lunch (about 140 calories + whatever the lettuce adds, only like 6 grams of fat, no cheese) and normal stuff for dinner. Like for dinner i might have some steak and potatoes or porkchop and beans or something, but i make sure not to add hurtfull stuff to it and i keep the portion sizes down. If i get hungry otherwise, like between the 2 meals or after supper, either some cereal or some fruit. I dont eat breakfast.

  3. Exercise: I walk about 2.8 miles ever morning monday-friday. I dont even walk it that fast, takes me like 50 minutes. Other than that not much, i do some grip traning and one of my exercises is tossing a weight around some that is cardio but i dont even do that very often. Sometimes iā€™ll jog down to get the mail (about 100yards round trip maybe) or something like that, but mostly just the daily walking.

Thatā€™s pretty much it. I dont know for a fact how much i weighed when i started, but about a year before i started i went to the doctor cause my hand was acting wierd and i weighed 330lbs. I would imagine that during the year following that visit i certainly did not lose any weight. So i would say i weiged an easy 330 at the beginning of May, maybe more, but at least 330. I started the walking around May 15 i think, the better eating and drinking around the beginning of may.

This morning i weiged 276. Good luck :tup: Sorry this was
so long.

EDIT: p.s. Maybe the weight is coming off easy for me since i was so overweight to begin withā€¦maybe? Also, yes i realize iā€™m still very overweight, but hey, iā€™m making progress! I want to get down to 250 ASAP (probably within 2-3 months) but overall iā€™d like to get down to 220 or so.

Good stuff manā€¦ eat every 2-3 hours, and take omega 369 oil. You need that healthy fat! BTW, you should really try interval training itā€™s supposed to increase your metabolism like mad and I didnā€™t see you mention anywhere about lifting weightsā€¦ that REALLY helps you lose fat as well and builds muscle, in the beginning atleast.

If ur not watching what you eat, whether ur trying to gain or lose weightā€¦ur wasting ur time in the gymā€¦completely. Get fired up manā€¦just tell yourself ur gonna FUCKING do it and DO IT. Once you see a lil results uā€™ll get pumped and take it a step furtherā€¦least thatā€™s what I did. I got fatā€¦then lost 30 poundsā€¦got pumped and gained 35 back in the way of muscleā€¦

I was going to start lifting but i thought i read somewhere that lifting weights is counterproductive when youā€™re on a weight loss plan. I guess i misinterpretted that to mean it is counterproductive to a fat-loss plan. So, should i lift or not? The school i go to has free access to a weight facility and itā€™s supposed to be pretty good. So, should i hit that up? It wont help me lose weight but will help me lose fat? Iā€™m trying to understand it correctlyā€¦

Thatā€™s actually backwards kindaā€¦What you saw someone say is thatā€™s itā€™s extremely hard if not impossible to build muscle while losing weightā€¦I for one can only speak from experienceā€¦when I started lifting, eating right, and doing cardio I lost roughly 30 pounds and put on a bit of muscle.

From what Iā€™ve been told muscle is metabolic tissueā€¦and itā€™s easier to lose a little weight and cut up when you have a solid muscular base to work withā€¦at least Iā€™ve found that true with myself.

Iā€™d say keep dieting and exercising, and by exercise I mean cardio and WEIGHT TRAINING. When the weight starts melting off of you and unveils a solid athletically muscular individual, I think you will be more pleased than if you just lost a ton of weight and turned into this slightly overweight kid who counts carbs and wishes he had a six pack.

Well I donā€™t go to the gym but do cardio. I try to do a few pushups with my cardio after I am done.

The above seems to balace my eating habits sicne I have not/lost any weight in the past couple of monthsā€¦the push ups have bulked my arms a tiny bitā€¦but still noticeable.

Thanks for the advice btw, One thing that I have been doing these past few months is getting into the habit of drinking water and almost ditched soda completely. If I do have the urge for a sweet drink Iā€™ll go for a gatorade, but nothing more.

The bolony and hot dogs are just too good :shake: :sad:

I definitely went overkill at the gym this week. I lift and run Monday through Friday and give myself the weekend to rest. Right now my arms are still in shock from this week. I canā€™t fully extend my arms without getting sharp pains in my elbows and triceps. I didnā€™t even go this Friday because I wanted to give myself three solid days of rest. Itā€™s pretty great tho because Iā€™m starting to see the prize at the end of the pain.

Iā€™m one of the lucky few guys who happens to have the body somatotype of a fitness model. Iā€™ve finally committed to keeping myself in shape. I go workout out everday after classes and I can feel the growth in my muscles. I eat a lot better than I used to as well. I mostly drink water, milk, and juice. I hardly have soda except on rare occassions.

I donā€™t mean to come on here to try and brag or anything, itā€™s just nice to know there are other people out there to help answer questions and provide some friendly support.:pleased:

Iā€™m actually considering changing my cardio workout to swimming since Iā€™m six feet even and Iā€™ve heard that itā€™s better in the long run on your joints and bones. Right now Iā€™m taking protein but is there anything else that you guys use besides creatine? Iā€™ve done some reading on creatine and I think the biggest problem is that most people simply donā€™t know how to take it properly. Iā€™m not interested in using it for my own reasons tho. What other supplement would you guys recommend?

Think about it, the more muscles you have the more calories you burn. The body uses more excess energy in keeping them going.