-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

thanks guys, really useful information from the posts. ill get into the links right now, thanks pat.

yea i live near a big circle great for jogging, but i have no pattern for the work out and make everything better. how long should it be for the best timing and increasing the round i go around? im thinking of running once around a day, then after a week or two increase it by 1.

my last question for now. i went into a local vitamin shop. i saw fat burners, i felt guilty by looking at them. but can i take them to help me? i also saw many protein powders also interested in those also.
thanks guys!

I would stay away from fat burners. Its for pussies/lazy people and speeds up your heart rate at rest, gives you random sweats, etc. Just do cardio and watch what you eat if you wanna get trim.

  1. I was told that 15 minutes of jogging in the morning and 15 at night are WAY better than 30 total. Is this true?

  2. Everyone says don’t run as well as work out “on the same day”/“at all,” but this is only when you’re trying to build muscle right? If you’re trying to burn fat / lose weight / pull some “muscle confusion” then it doesn’t matter / might be better for you, right?

Shin splints. Your legs to rest man. If you need to do cardio run once a day and then got on a bicycle or elliptical machine at night.

Your legs will gradually get accustommed to the stress.

If you try running like that you can hurt yourself.

Hm…perhaps I meant “jogging.” (Not to be a wise-ass, but I don’t mean anything TOO stressful.)

I’m essentially new to running.

How’s this:

its because you cut out the pop, the probability of you losing 10lbs from doing crunches is unlikely…2 bottles of pop is a shit load of excess empty calories a day, so cutting that out you would lose weight…

im outi

Roberth

Got a question/concern

I got this friend, who I am overly concerned with his weight among other things. How do you break it to him that he might need to start working out? How do you motivate him to get into either a gym or court (he used to ball back in the day)? Anyone else have the same concerns?

i just straight up showed my buddy a picture of himself from four years ago and showed him how much weight he gained. that gave him the initial motivation.

if you really want him to follow through, though, you gotta be there for him. show him what to do at the gym, show him how to set goals, show him how to change his diet for the better, and hope he likes it enough to stick.

most people gotta find a reason to be healthy, because they’re too lazy to bother with it otherwise.

Theres only so much you can do for someone like that. Chances are they’re aware that they’re heavy/gained weight, but aren’t ready or willing to do anything about it. People have a hard time understanding that working out and eating healthy is a lifestyle change, not something you can do for a week or two and say you’re done.

So unless he’s willing to change his lifestyle, theres not a whole lot you can do.

2 quick stories

  1. My brother has a friend who’s gonna be turning 30 next year, this dude was athletic in high school, played baseball, etc. He was like 6’2 maybe 170lbs. Now he’s 6’2 somewhere in the range of 400lbs. He eats and sleeps right after, eats mozzarella sticks and fries whenever we go out and is literally killing himself. Thank god next month hes having a gastric band operation, but still. His way of life is going to have to change to keep that weight off.

  2. I used to be pretty heavy. About 4 years ago, I was eating 2 meals a day both were fast food and I would eat ALOT. I calculated it the other day, I was eating 2800 calories and like 180g of fat in ONE MEAL. It was ridiculous. I was 5’8 weighing 250 lbs. I literally felt like complete shit all the time, until right after I ate. It was exactly like the dude on Super Size Me, no joke. So one day I got fed up with it and how I looked and decided to start working out with my friend GRITZ. After a few months I started feeling a little better and wasn’t looking as fat. 4 years later I’m 5’8 195lbs and think I have some pretty good size. I now workout about 5 days a week, about 2 hour sessions. When I don’t go I feel like shit, but obviously you need some time off.

The other day I was looking at some old pics from a Christmas a few years ago and the change is dramatic. Once I lose a little more fat and gain some more size I’ll post some before and after pics.

But anyways, my point is, you have to make this a mandatory thing in your life. It doesn’t have to be weightlifting, but some kind of exercise and be aware of what you’re putting into your body. If you look at eating as nutrients for your body, and that is WHY you’re eating, then eating those fries or chips comes a little easier to resist, at least for me.

Anyways, I hope this was of some help to SRK.

Why do my questions fuckin’ appear on the BOTTOM of pages…

Anyway:

Make it fun. Don’t lecture him about dying young (true, but it doesn’t work unless he’s like that). Bring some girls to the court, even if he doesn’t get a lot of exercise out of it, it’ll remind him how fun it is. The Embarassment Factor may or may not be an issue. If it is, you can skip the girls and just be a good friend. Again, no lectures on dying young / health problems.

Bunch of girly ass advice. Man up and make fun of your boy. Call him a fat bitch. And tell him that even you, as a friend, thinks of him as that, so imagine what others think of him everyday.

But for real, most people I know who let themselves go, don’t care what others think. It’s like they’ve completely given up on themselves, and others. No matter what anyone says, they refuse to change their lifestyle. People think it’s lack of motivation, but if the prospect looking good, getting pussy and living a healthier life don’t motivate you, then what will?

I have a friend who’s pretty fat, and delusional. This guy doesn’t give a fuck, he’s out partying 5 days a week and wears the tightest shirt and the girls literally have a nickname for him Fat David. He doesn’t care. You know what’s his excuse? “I’d rather be fat than skinny”. These people will do anything and say anything to convince themselves otherwise.

So, honestly, no amount of advice will do it. In the end, it’s up to the individual. They’re like chronic smokers. Some will never quit, and some will only in the face of those “OH SHIT” moment such as cancer and other lung diseases. And by then it’s too late.

I think I would agree. I let myself go for a while, but I always had it in me to lose weight I just needed a push. For me it was seeing all the diabetes problems and stuff in my family and realizing that I am too young to be as big as I was(well there isn’t an age to be that big) and I just didn’t wanna have all kinds of problems as I grow up.

But I also have a friend who is like 420 or 410. He’s a tall guy, but still really huge. Like 6XL shirt huge, doesn’t wear socks cuz he can’t reach down there and shit. he just doesn’t give a fuck. his excuse is “why bother? I’ll just gain it back twice as fast.” I never understood that logic. it’s like saying why take a shower when you’re just going to get dirty again. Oh well. I did manage to get him in the gym after he saw me starting to lose weight, but he only went a few times and then stopped. besides he liked to visit our friend and get a fat ass thing of coldstone on workouts days… wtf?!?

In the end no one but yourself can get you in the gym…

i dont know anything about #1. theres some knowledge around about what working out does or how it helps/does not help at certain times of the day, but i dont remember anything specifically to drop knowledge on that…

#2, i think it is ok to workout and run on the same day. if you want to stay just fit and athletic its fine. if you want to get the most out of your workout i would run after the workout rather than before. but in the grand scheme of things really doesnt matter if all your looking for is just to be fit and lose some weight…

im outi

Roberth

Plateauing at the last 10-15 pounds is agonizing. I’m eating 2800 calories (60P,30C, 10F tracked on fitday, I’m 6’4 220 12-13%bf).

I don’t really want to cut back on calories so I’m starting double 30 min low intensity sessions on workout days and 25 min HIIT sessions on non workout days.

Any tips for the last few pounds?

10% fat seems a bit low to me while 60% protein seems really high.

i would just wait and see what this cardio will do for you because i think it will help. if not drop 200 calories and continue doing what you are doing…

im outi

Roberth

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Disgusting. What’s that guy’s name?

thats pretty nasty man. was that nail polish remover? oh and from the comments, apparently that guy is dead…

Heat. You are the SHIT. (I keep thinking I should call you Royce.)

About jogging “twice” in one day, the idea I read was that it was supposed to supercharge your metabolism.

The best scenario they mentioned was that jogging for 10 minutes each but THREE times a day would be good for you. When I think of that, I think of eating the “six” meals a day, etc.

About working out / running, I THOUGHT so. So it only applies to building muscle right? I mean, I’ll still get stronger if I do on/off days, or if I workout then run? (I had heard it was counter-productive to getting bigger.)

(Who has so much energy that they can get a full workout and then get a full run?)