General Physical Preparedness
bullshit, your idea of what strength is is skewedā¦no one would consider that āmediumā strength if you were at 170ā¦they would say that you are strongā¦
that shit takes years of training to doā¦
and power yoga is a type of yoga that focuses on strength more so than flexibility (although it does flexibility as well) and also focuses less on meditationā¦oh, also it doesnt focus on moving from position to position like flow wise, its quite random what positions are chosen next and they sometimes differ to emphasis the strength aspect of itā¦
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Roberth
Mark Rippetoe says Iām in between Intermediate and Advancedā¦
are these 1 rep max lifts??? or???
also why not deadlift more than 5 reps???
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Roberth
wow I never considered myself to be a little past intermediateā¦
I thought I would be somewhere between novice and intermediateā¦
I need to work on my press thoughā¦
and what kind of squat?
I think it misses a vital piece of information thoughā¦ heightā¦
at least in terms of getting an overall idea of potentialā¦
Form breaks down with fatigue. If thereās any exercise where bad form causes serious injury, itās the deadlift.
EDIT:
These are 1 rep maxes.
Back squat, comp legal depth. Adding in height as a variable would make that table a whole lot larger and more complex. These are rough guidelines.
The intermediate level
indicates some degree of specialization in the exercises and a high level of
performance at the recreational level. The term"advanced" refers to an individual
with multi-year training experience with definite goals in the higher levels of
competitive athletics.
a āhigh level of performanceā regarding strength, which is intermediate imo is not āmedium strengthā and neither is advanced if you reached which apparently you haveā¦
and whats weird is, if these are 1 rep maxesā¦on one of the weight groups he says you have to go up 100lbs to go to from intermdiate to advancedā¦thats insane if you are maxing 270 and the next max is 370ā¦adding 100lbs to your current max is like mind blowingā¦
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Roberth
I dunno, I think the term āIntermediateā is synonymous with āMedium.ā
Adding 100lbs to your 1rm in 1-2 years is not mind blowing, especially if youāre just beginning.
I donāt really see why the amount of weight matters. If Iām at my ideal size/shape/look/health level, I couldnāt care less if Iām benching 300 pounds or 30 pounds.
Obviously if youāre training for strength it matters. =p
Different strokes for different folks, Willis. Clear progression and goals > amorphous size and shape goals. But, I really shouldnāt have to tell you that what with the consistency youāve had over the life of this thread! =p
well i think most people would think intermediate is medium, but his definition of intermediate is definately not mediumā¦at least the way im reading itā¦
well its not beginning on his chart its from intermediate to advancedā¦thats mind blowingā¦and from advanced to elite is another 100lbsā¦crazy shitā¦
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Roberth
Your sense of scale is totally warped. Intermediate is a āhigh level of performance at the recreational level.ā This is strong to the average gym rat, which in the scheme of things is nothing. I may deadlift and squat near advanced, which puts me near the top of the heap at my gym, but if I went to a lifting comp, Iād be below average for my weight class. Take a look at a guy like Lamar Gant, weighed in at 132lbs and pulled 661 RAW. Of course thereās going to be grades of difference between him and I, but do you really need to jam in 10 more levels? āEliteā is elite for a reason, not many of us (if any) will achieve it in our lifetimes.
no yours is totally warpedā¦we are talking about strength in general average dude scale of things and you are talking about training to lift for competitionā¦
when people generally talk about strength they talk about it at a non competative levelā¦when you are talking about strength at a competative level of course 315 squat and 405 dead is like maybe averageā¦
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Roberth
If I am trying to lose weight what is my best course?
Uhh exercise
haha no shit. Specifics, man. Should I lift more, should I run more all that jive
Do you just wanna lose weight as in fat? Do you wanna get tone? Do you wanna put on some muscle?
Gimme some input on your height, weight. Are you overweight? What areas of your body would you like to improve? Whats your overall goal?
Itās actually well below average in competitive powerlifting, which was kinda my point. Look, Iām looking at it from a very wide perspective. Between the completely untrained skinny-fat pencil neck to the elite powerlifters, a 405 deadlift and 315 squat falls pretty neatly in the middle. Given a good diet and mediocre genetics, these numbers are attainable by most anyone > 150lbs in 2-3 years of consistent training. Thatās hardly what most would consider hardcore. Getting from these strength levels to the next level is where things get difficult, and very few progress beyond it.
If you want to limit your scope, where the very extreme top-end is that recreational lifter who lifts maybe 3x a week, then be my guest. Iām just saying, youāre not accounting for a whole world of athletes (both strength athletes and conventional athletes) who would consider that individual weak.
Very true. It doesnāt matter how good a workout plan is, if I canāt stick with it for longer than a month heh.
i think you are tripping on some serious shit but ill still respect your opinionā¦i just disagree with itā¦some one who is 150lbs and can deadlift even just 300lbs is definately not of average or medium strengthā¦
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Roberth