red meat may have a better amino acid profile, more vitamin B12, iron and creatine amongst other things, but large amounds of red meat consumption has been linked to a notable increase in risk of cancer, has high content of saturated fats which is linked to cardiovcascular diseases, and linked to other problems like bone loss, diabetes and other things…
I would eat it now and then, but I would definately not take it over fish (especially) or chicken as a regular source of protein…
rice and potatoes? what are you saying? only after workouts… not regularly…
True, there is a lot of contradictory evidence, and perhaps there is no direct evidence, but the correlation is there… ofcourse, correlation doesnt mean cause-and-effect but it is warning that it is a possibility.
But the fact that there is controversy, while fish remains absolutely free of any controversy regarding the immense benefits it contains makes it seem like a no brainer to me as to which one should be selected as the main source of meat protein, at least from a health perspective, if you should pick a main one, which you shouldnt in my opinion. Its always wise to mix it up, and get protein from all sources: whey, fish, chicken, beef etc… you will be able to benefit from all of them, and you wont suffer majorly from anyone in particular… plus you are putting weight-gaining ahead of health when you are implying red meat should be eaten instead of the other healthier meats… people should be informed, and make that decision on their own…
same with the taking rice and potatoes as the preferable source of carbs outside of post-workout instead of veggies and fruits… but not to the same degree. I just read an article at t-nation that attempts to dispell some myths; one of them being increased insulin-sensitivity post workout lasts for about an hour. In fact, new data showed that the insulin-sensitivity lasts for around 24 hrs! So, myself for example, since I work out every other day will be eating rice n potatoes 24hrs after workout and fruits and veggies 24hrs pre-workout…
here is the article, real eye-opener… (ex. drinking a protein shake immediately after working out doesnt illicit the same response as drinking a protein shake 1hr after working out) http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=659666
About that Masai tribe article… I didnt look for the scientific article if it was ever published in any scientific journal, but I am pretty damn sure the Masai do MANY things differently than the modern world, my guesses would include: The cows are grass-fed which, first of all, frees it from all the shit associated with modern farming (hormones, steroids, antibiotics, animal by-product feed etc…), gives it a better nutrient profile, lower in fat (can have as little as skinless chicken breast), lower in saturated fat, 300-400% more CLA (conjugated linoleic acid are linked to weight loss and reduced cancer risk), higher in omega fats (2-7x more) and a good ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 too, 3:1 vs the 20:1 ratio of grain-fed. That being said, my guess is they dont eat as much as the average ‘modern’ person, let alone a person who trying to eat a lot (bodybuilder for example). I didnt look into it, but I am sure being grass-fed also beneficially impacts the milk the cows produce, and they probably drink it raw (and you mentioned about that a few pages ago, though I didnt have the time to look more into it).
You also just recently told someone to drink his shake with milk without clarifying to him to drink it raw, while I remember you a few pages ago mentioned it was detrimental… am I missing something?
Finally, I noticed you mentioned that you should put some peanut butter in your PWO shake. Now I read two sides of the story here and I am sure you did too. I am guessing you do so because it is shown that saturated fats and monounsaturated fats raise testosterone levels (and subsequently reduce cortisol levels). The other side of the coin is that fats shouldnt be taken because they generally slow down digestion of other essential macronutrients like protein and carbs. I am kinda torn there, and I was wondering if you can provide me with an article/data that showed that fat ingestion post-workout gave a larger benefit than a detriment… that would be a great help
yeah I am aware of mercury content in fish… like i said, having an assortment of meats as a source of protein is best…
any luck with the article… i really am torn
Alright, here’s a question for you guys. I was in the gym for a while in spring/summer 2007, and at work I pulled my back lifting crates late summer. It put me in the bed for a day, and had me out of the gym for a few weeks. I eventually got really unmovitated to keep going to the gym. It hurt to an extent (not horribly) for about 4 months after pulling it. It stopped hurting in about January 2008, then I started going to the gym again. It started hurting again…but not bad. I started working on my lower back a pretty good bit (low weights high reps), and it is feeling somewhat better. Should I go to the doctor or keep working on it a little bit at a time? I know the lower back isn’t something to mess with, but it has been feeling better with weight training.
The first is how often should I be drinking Muscle Milk? I bought the MM Light version two weeks ago (I’m trying to lose, but I still want to lift) and I have great results so far. I can lift about 20 pounds more on almost all exercises. So far I have lost some weight (I don’t weigh, I judge by how much tighter I can close my belt).
The real question is when should I take MM, before or after workouts? Is it like that shit Brady Quinn spews, within 30 minutes after working out? Should I take it two or three times a day like it says or what?
The second question I have is how do you guys avoid those nasty lines that are entrenched in your shoulders when doing certain exercises (the calf raise machine, squat machine)? I really like those exercises, but I hate the look and feel on your shoulders afterward.
MM is supposed to be post workout, kind of like an extra meal. I personally don’t think it’s worth taking though, and as soon as I’m done with this batch I’m done with it.
She did 5,135. That’s an impressive feat, but does it have any benefits? Would it matter if you’re doing that many? is it same as doing 100, 500, 1000, or 2000?
Did you go see a doctor when it first happened? If you’ve got insurance, it might be worth a look. I’d avoid lifts that have the potential to put your lower back into any sort of flexion and concentrate on strengthening your core stability.
Muscle Milk is not supposed to be post workout, it has too few carbs and an unfavorable slow and fast protein distribution. It’s best used as a meal replacement shake and as a way to get healthy calories in a pinch. Muscle Milk Light is shit, it’s marketing garbage. Go with the full fat Muscle Milk.
Benefits? It gets your face on the Guiness Book of World Records. Other than that, not really. I do tabata body weight squats as a conditioning exercise, but nothing in this sort of range. Her aerobic conditioning is stellar if she can do 5000+ in an hour, that’s more than 1 a second.
well cardio should always be done to keep a healthy heart. its better to do cardio on off days rather than training days. you just don’t need to do anything to extensive. 20-30 mins cardio 3x a week should be sufficient.
IMO, there are no benefits to long sessions of steady state cardio. None. Zero. Nadda. Well, I take that back, if you’re training for a marathon, the Ironman or any other endurance event, there sure as hell are, but if you’re not, then the previous statement holds.
You burn fat more efficiently with HIIT.
You can train both your aerobic and anaerobic energy systems with middle distance runs (400m, 800m). This also has the added benefit of increasing overall body vascularity otherwise associated with long distance running too.
Weight training has an equal, if not greater, impact on cardiac health.
I wanted to ask you guys about starting a new workout routine.
I have just started trying to get back in shape once again and so I must take things very slowly. I have started off by jogging about two miles per run, and I just got back into the gym for the first time in probably a year.
This is the workout I started with:
15 reps squat (1 to 3 reps — one for my first time back in the gym)
15 reps deadlift
12 reps military press
25 reps row (1-3 sets)
I wanted to ask how many times a week I should be doing this routine, and also, what is a good inverse to this routine, that will work out opposite muscles and help with a complete workout routine?
How big of an interval is recommended for HIIT cardio? Because right now I’m going for about 20 minutes, 2.5min at 3/4 speed and then going down to maybe 1/4 speed (fast enough that I have to powerwalk) for 30 seconds. When I first started doing this routine I had a tough tough time even making it to 20 minutes, but just recently I had no problems making it to 20, so I was thinking of either going for a longer period of time or just trying to go at full speed for a shorter period… like 2 min or so.