-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

What the hell is this now? Mens Fitness Magazine?

hello ppl of fitness, lay down your answer of wisdom!

well, im an alright kind of guy. i used to be a skiny toothpick, but know im getting kind of big( not a girl, ppl). my shape is cool cause i stay toned like all the time, which i dont get. but my love handles are chunky. arent love handles your sides? anyway, how can i get rid of this and get more toned up body-wise? and whats a good exercise for my arms? i do crunches wit 10lbs, but can i do better wit the exercise?
holla.

did you try running? any cardio should do…

yah. i walk like everyday 1) to work, 2) to the lbrary, to the store… i practically walk all the time! i just dont know any exercise for the glove handles!

he said running, not walking, try running, and change your diet a little bit, cut back on foods that are not necessary…there are not specific weightlifting exercises to get rid of fat…

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Roberth

basically, you can exercise the obliques/abs all you want… but the love handles are fat… and you are either ingesting too much food/too much fatty foods, or not expending enough energy… so either cut back on food or make your exercises more intense… when you do clear up the fat though, a good exercise for the obliques are weighted side bends…

undulating is a form of periodization that can be applied to either training templates, either conjugate or concurrent…

damn… i gained 9 pounds since last week.

i feel should good :smile:. except i’m spending twice as much on food as i did two weeks ago :sad:. budget constraint ftl.

how do you guys load up on protein/etc without going broke?

chicken breasts are pretty cheap
non fat cottage cheese (before bed)
non fat milk
stone cut oats
egg whites
steaks
beans (lentel/kidney etc)
fish (canned tuna in water only)
and the all mighty protein shake (I use ON Whey)
I know Im forgetting alot but those are what I usually eat not including fruits etc
At first I wasn’t into brown rice, but Im all over the stuff now.

If theirs a Cost co around your area, go buy your food there, you will save $$$, but yeah clean bulking is somewhat costly if you want to do it right with good foods/fats an not just burgers etc.

Do you buy egg whites?
I am eating 3 whole eggs (yolk and white) every morning amongst other things… probably not too healthy…

Yeah I do, the same folk that make the No Yolk eggs, make an all egg white product too.

alright. i’ll get more intense wit the exersices.

Quick question.

After lifting, I drink a protein shake and gatorade (for the sugars). After a run, what am I suppose to drink?

fernando’s: thanks for the list :smile:

i just tried chicken breast recently and for the taste it’s definitely worth the price. tuna in water/brine is still cheaper though.

no kidding… you can buy just egg whites? how’s it packaged? (is it just an egg with no yolk?)

First off, go buy some maltodextrin and/or some dextrose…(it’s not expensive, prolly cheaper in the long haul than a big gatorade every time you work out) and mix that with ur protein shakes instead of drinking gatorade. (the sugar in gatorade is high fructose corn syrup IIRC, not very good for you)

After a run? Well depending on how intense the running was (aerobic or anaerobic or both) you might need a protein shake…it couldn’t hurt at least. I probably wouldn’t spike my insulin honestly…considering it isn’t completely necessary PWO, I wouldn’t bother taking in the sugars after a run. If you find yourself spiking ur insulin levels constantly it’s possible to develop poor insulin sensitivity. (bad)

Just my opinion.

Basically, I’ve found a way to rapidly increase my metabolism and I’ve been losing half to a whole pound a day since I started.

First, I started purchasing a mens multi mega vitamin from the GNC (health store) as well as omega oil caplets. Taking these every morning, I found that it didn’t do so much. Then, I started drinking coffee every morning, having no breakfast until 1 hour after I woke up, being told that my body doesn’t actually start to burn energy, and breakfast stores a lot of fat until one hour after waking up. Combine it with antidepressants that supress my hunger a bit. Later on, I started taking vitamin B to get a further energy boost in the morning.

I work at Kal Tire as a tire installer, oil changer, and all that, doing a decent amount of hard work, nothing as difficult as a construction worker, but I’m on my feet all day. I find myself eating smaller meals, and to be quite honest, while I’m working, I do drink a pop or two a day usually, but I’m not drinking that stuff anymore while I’m not working. There are a couple of days during all this so far while I ate a slice of pizza and I still lost a bunch of weight. I drink quite a bit of water too, at least 1.5 litres a day or so. (Just a cup or two under half a gallon).

At night, I have either a little snack or nothing at all.

I used to be 209 pounds, and now I find myself at 200. My body frame to be in good shape without having a lot of fat would be ok at 180 pounds or so. I don’t feel sick, and I’ve been told its unhealthy to lose too much weight too fast. But I’m still eating junk like chips and pop sometime too, as well as healthier food choices. I still intake about 2500 calories a day or so, maybe a bit more on other days.

SO uhm, do you guys feel I should keep on going this route with semi-healthy eating, taking vitamins and shit in the morning, drinking my morning coffee, eating an hour after waking up, eating small meals often and indulging in an unhealthy snack every day or second day or so, and not eating at night?

I was told that losing too much weight too fast is unhealthy, I don’t know.

I feel myself getting a little stronger too, though it could be just easier for me to lift stuff and exercize (like do push ups) since I’m losing less body weight too.

Smaller meals xx water xx healthy eating is the basic combo. Congrats man. 2500 calories won’t kill anybody. Keep (compound) weight training, throw in cardio.

I’ve never taken a vitamin myself, though. Do you find it helps considerably?

Yeah, I know about the sugars, just haven’t done anything about it yet. :sweat:
I think I’ll do 1/2 a scoop of whey after I run, it’s probably gonna be HIIT, thanks man.

How’s work anyways?

Sounds alright, don’t get too hooked on supplements than regular food though. It’s better getting the nutrients you need from real foods as a primary source than supps.

Anyone take Centrum? Was considering it since my mom always keeps it around the house. I don’t see the harm in getting extra vitamins.

From what I remember reading, vitamins are coenzymes (or cofactors, I forget) that help support and maintain your muscles.

Dont take my words too heavily but this is what I think:
If you are trying to gain weight, you are probably eating 4-6 times a day. Hopefully, including vegetables and fruit as your main source of carbs (fibre based and produces a low insulin repsonse, not to mention and the nutrients and useful fat they contain, and the antioxidants in others) and the occasional not so useful stuff like rice, pasta etc…(which your going to try to eat only after exercising).
If you are doing this, chances are you probably getting most of the vitamins and nutrients you need. Ofcourse that is assuming you are eating healthy and the protein shake constitutes 1 or max 2 meals of the day.

If you are trying to lose weight, then depending on how much you are cutting back and how small your meals are, supplements would probably be a good thing.

Dont take too much. If you dont pass the daily recommended its all good. Other studies I read actually shows the daily recommendation shown on the label is actually too low and is not suitable for people working out/exercising, so you can pass that a bit.

In the end though, I would say find some natural foods that you like that contain all the essential nutrients that you need, and incorporate that into your diet. It is believed that although isolated nutrients do work to a certain extent, it is not the same as getting it from its natural source. They think its due to the fact that the natural source may contain other co-factors that help in the absorption or effect of the essential nutrient. So skip the multi-vitamin and, instead, eat an extra few servings of fruits and veggies each day because no pill will come close to the benefits of fruits and veggies.

Edit:
Having said that, if you guys arent eating a lot of fish (chances are you arent) you must get this pill:
Omega 3 Fish Oil Capsules:
They are rich in a specific group of fatty acids (omega 3 fatty acids) that are commonly missing in most diets. When added to the diet, these fats (especially the DHA and EPA components) have been shown to improve insulin sensitivity in muscle cells while decreasing it in fat cells. As a result, nutrients are most likely to be shunted toward muscle instead of adipose tissue. In addition to improved carbohydrate storage, fish oil may improve the efficiency of protein storage, increase metabolic rate, and increase lean mass.

On top of the aforementioned benefits, fish oil also can improve one?s health profile including reducing cardiovascular disease risk, cancer risk, and diabetes risk. Be sure the oil comes from one of the following fish (or a combination of both): salmon, sardine, anchovy, or menhaden. Why these fish? All the aforementioned fish are rich in DHA and EPA, the fats most often associated with all the benefits discussed above.
Note: cod liver oil does not count ? you?re looking for EPA and DHA rich marine oils.
Also make sure the fish oil that you buy is concentrated to between 30 and 60%. Therefore you should see 300-600mg of combined EPA and DHA per 1000mg of oil.

I take Costco brand. It’s okay, it doesn’t seem to help that much. It helped me get much better sleep, or at least, real dreamy sleep.

The only real bad thing I heard about multivitamins is if it contains iron. Mine does. That’s probably why I don’t take it every day. I think we get enough iron as it is and you don’t want to get iron poisoning.

You can buy also buy Gatorade powder (sucrose and dextrose) and just mix that in your shake. Here’s a link that I found that explains it.
http://ericcressey.blogspot.com/2007/03/is-this-gatorade.html