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Romie, do you have any Bowflex comments?

Does anyone here own a Bowflex?

They do steroids…further proof that people who use steroids can do ANYTHING and grow. I did.

I know people who have done steroids in prison…I was pretty suprised to learn how easy it was to get them in prison.

Newbs can do anything and grow. Overtraining and injury are the prime reasons a person might quit and both go hand in hand.

Everything works but nothing works forever.

If you were to check out what athletes do…(actually I’m checking out a place next week that trains athletes, I am very excited) They do all that fancy stuff.

If you can train like an athlete, why not?? You are stupid not to.

I also thinks it’s funny when people scream “what works for me may not work for you”…yet they do the same mundane “chest n tri’s/back n bi’s” split.

Oh and bowflex’s are an obscene waste of space and money.

Basically what i’m saying is that if you put too much pressure on yourself by having to have a perfect diet or spending hundreds of dollars on supplements the workout starts to seem like it’s more trouble than it’s worth. That’s when people decide to quit.

I can see if the purpose of training like an athlete if you actually are one. Then you would have a reason to train for hours a day and such. But let’s be honest. Most people are not going to be pros so actually there isn’t really a reason to train like one.

I know lots of people that work out and for the most part eat whatever they want and are in good shape. Like I said if you’re into sports and all that then yeah all the training is called for. But if you’re just trying to get in shape and stay in shape it really isn’t as complicated as people make it out to be. Thus no need for the fancy stuff.

The “fancy stuff” I was referring to was the actually training. You don’t have to be an athlete to desire a balanced, well planned out program. I’m not talking about taking hundreds of dollars worth of supplements and training for hours. As far as resistance training is concerned, you should be training for an hour. Never have I prescribed any supplements or hours of training.

Magnus, you’re quite knowledgeable on steroids. In class today, teacher gave us 15 mins to write about anabolic steroids for athletes. Now the question itself was pretty dumb since it was “Do you feel professionals using steroids is wrong?”

Have a website I could read up on about steroids or do you have some basic info that’d help? It doesn’t have to be a whole bunch of stuff, I just want to make what I hand in better than what everyone else writes. :sweat:

see, I learned about steroids from a lot of questions directed at the right people and random studies and medical journals posted in different places. I can give you a few points of view to help guide you a little perhaps…

*athletes are people…in general I don’t think it’s wrong for people to use steroids…but as far as athletes are concerned, why not?? here’s my opinion:

-Does it taint the sport?? Make certain players too good?? FACT: Athletes use steroids, period…barry bonds and the other 2 players that have admitted to it aren’t the only ones…if you think that you are stupid.

-Fact: There are 0 documented deaths that are DIRECTLY related to steroid abuse.

-Fact: Steroids were widely used in the mid 20th century to treat wasting diseases and is still widely prescribed today for a variety of reasons…

-Fact: When congressed moved to make steroids a schedule III controlled substance…the FDA, DEA and some other organization were all opposed.

-Fact: Our OWN GOVERNMENT performed a study on the side effects of steroid use and came up with acne and breast tenderness…hmmm…noting that chances of long term health risks appears to be low.

Holy shit!!!:wow: :wow: I feel like a big pussy after watching these 3 girls do a 13 min circuit!! I dont think I would have lasted more then 6min honestly!

These 3 chicks are definitley freakin hardcore!! Much props to there work ethics:wow: :wow:

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/051204.wmv

First of all
DAMN!!!

Second of all
How’s their form anyway? Some of it seems a little sketchy.

Magnus, have you worked with Bowflexes before?

Thanks man, I remember what you said about roid rage and how it came about. What’s this about testicles shrinking? That’s probably one of the most frequent “facts” I hear when someone talks about steroids.

In my opinion, almost everything a Bowflex can do, so can a pair of dumbbells and bench.

Those chicks are crazy, but that last one at the end was pushing herself way too much. She was about to lose her balance and fall flat on her ass.

Yes I have…I’m not a fan at all…one of the biggest downfalls to a bowflex is the fact that bending rods is what creates resistance. It seemed to me that resistance was greater the more the rod bends…so let’s take a chest press as an example…at the bottom of the lift, when you are using your chest and shoulders the most…the resistance is the lightest…then once the weight is moving and tension shifts more towards the triceps in locking out…the tension is the greatest…

And IMO they work the stabilizers too hard. Never will you need that kind of stabilization and the weights you move on the bowflex will hardly carry over to free weights…Nothing will build muscle like free weights. Never has and never will.

The leydig cells (LAY-DIG) in the testes produce like 90-95% of a males testosterone…when you start injecting exogenous hormones, you interrupt this sensitive, natural process and the testes basically take a break…since they aren’t doing any work, they atrophy…imagine breaking your arm and having it in a cast…it would be signicantly smaller and weaker when the cast was removed…but once you started using it again it would return to normal size and function…just like ur nuts.

And you are correct…it’s ur testicles…not ur wang…

You can do more…much more.

Thanks for all the info Magnus, appreciate it. :tup:

…wow sir…that was amazing, i am inspired…i will try to do that, after a 2 months i can probably do that, but i have to find some rings somewhere…anyone know where i can get some…

it also looked like they were working out in a house…pretty cool…

im outi

Roberth

It’s really not a great workout…

…no one said that was a great workout, just that i was amazed…

im outi

Roberth

Alright so I’ve started to lift recently but I still got some newb questions on workin out.
What’s generally the best # of reps and sets in order to gain strength? Not necessarily bulking up but just being able to lift more. If I gotta bulk up to do so though, then that’s fine.
When lowering my arms in preacher curls, how bent or extended & straight should my arms be?
When I’m doin’ shoulder shrugs, does it matter if I have my neck pointing up or should my head be tilting downwards?
Lastly what are the advantages/disadvantages of using dumbells over bars?

Not sure about reps, but I think the amount you want to be doing strength-wise depends on your weight.

I lower my arms all the ways just before they straighten out.

I kept my head straight when I did those.

Dumbbells are good, I like using them for my chest. The bar is minimum usage for me, I only use it with deadlifts, squats, and bench press.

Should I be stretching between sets?

Between? Not really or at least I haven’t heard anything about it, but static stretching is good after a workout.

Hm. Yeah, I suspected as much. Thanks, Soldier.

deadlifts and number of reps

3-5(sets)x3-6(reps).Thats for strength.But the lower the reps number ,the bigger the chance of injury.So if you wanna do deadlifts 3 sets of 4 reps you must be good technicaly.If you doing deadlifts for only 3 mounth then your lowest reps number must be 6-8, if you do deadlifts for 1 month than 2 sets 10-15 reps, and so on
ps. sorry for my bad english:wonder: