-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

LoLoL…I KNOW…People don’t realize the absurd amount of food and lack of activity outside the gym that’s necessary for growth like that. Not to mention heavy drug use/abuse…

Ok…this form of supersetting…(where they do two or more exercises back to back within a muscle group) is used to cause a deeper level of exhaustion within that particular muscle in an attempt to stimulate growth and force a tremendous amount of blood into that muscle.

If you use a body part split then by all means give it a shot and see how you like it…I for one, don’t do this at all…for the fact that I don’t train bodyparts…I train movements.

On a side note…first workout of the new cycle this week…have seen GREAT gains in strength and muscular endurance. My training partner and I both benched more weight for more reps than last time we used the same rep scheme…I am very pleased…we will see if this holds up for the rest of the weeks to come…

could you pls go more into the training bodyparts vs movement type workouts?
Pros/Cons etc.

Chaos;Thanks for the unecessary jackass reply, it was greatly appreciated, not all of us know the ins/outs when it comes to hitting weights/muscle growth/stimulation.

but yeah thanks!

No, you completely deserved that response from Chaos.

So how does one properly diet? I’ve heard so many things on this saying your body will store carbs if you don’t eat. And what are you supposed to eat when dieting? I’ve been having a piece a bread when my stomach hurts. You know, when it growls or whatever.

Also, when lifting weights, how long aro you suppose to do a rep? Is it until you’re completely can’t-do-anymore tired, or when you still have a little bit of energy in?

Does running help build muscle in your stomach? Because I usually feel a burn there. How do you get rid of fat in theighs? I need to work on this MAJOR. It feels weird to have a small waist, but a J lo ass and theighs :frowning:

If you say so, its not like I dont listen to what some folk have to say, cause I follow this thread possibly the most, but I see how retarded it sounded to some of you folk that have been lifting more regularly than the beginner.

Um, yeah, I’ll see how well I can answer some of this. Depends on what you’re dieting for, lose body fat? gain muscle mass and weight? just to be healthier overall?

You should do anywhere from 8-12 reps with a decent amount of weight. Form is a must, so don’t go for something heavy and then do it all half-assed.

Losing fat in general works on the whole body, you can’t target one area. There’s other stuff I could go into, but it’d be helpful if you could be more specific.


I’m in my 3rd week, gonna increase weight tomorrow. First 2 weeks, good stuff, it’s a pretty short amount of time, but I can see small differences. Gotten slightly bigger which is nice to see.

Hey Magnus, I’m not sure when I should take my back off week. I know it’s suppose to be after 4-6 weeks take 1, but how different would it be taking it after 4,5, or 6 weeks?

I want to turn the fat that I have into muscle all over my body, and gain as little weight as possible.

Fat doesn’t turn into muscle…they are two completely different types of tissue…

If you are very new to lifting you can gain muscle while losing fat…otherwise, even that is very difficult…

The myth behind “turning fat into muscle” is just the fact that it’s easier for you to get rid of the fat and replace that mass with muscle rather than someone skinny who wants to put on more muscles. Key word is replace here. But again both are are challenging.

I say build up muscle mass and eat cleaner, then shed fat.

Ok then. But are there anny tips on what to eat and what not to eat?

Mango, (man…can’t believe I just called a guy “Mango”) you already know what not to eat. What you should be eating is up for debate.

What you shouldn’t be eating is clear. Things like chips and fast food. If you really want to pull some dieting, stay off the ice cream and go easy on the cake. That sort of thing.

As far as things that you should be eating, I think it’s more important that you eat very, very often. Every 2 hours is a good amount of time to be eating. Try to eat things with protein like chicken and steak.

Anyway, stay away from the crap that hurts your body.

Yeah, I’ve set a goal for myself.

Im 21 years old and I’ve never been able to do a pull up. After 3 months of working out, Im about half a inch to doing a pull up.

After getting settled down and being familiarized with the workout/equipment, I was finally ready to workout consistantly with a partner. Every Sunday we work out our trunks(mainly because we needed spotters). Every week I have been raising my max bench by atleast 10 lbs(I started at 95 lbs.Im benching 165 lbs comfortable and I weight 210 lbs).

We started other methods of weightlifting like negative reps, partial reps, and forced reps.

Thanks for all the help. I have bigger goals but they are long term goals that will take a lot of time to reach. But I like to thank the links in the first page of the thread, Magnus and a few others with helpful responses. Hopefully I wont get lazy and stop.

seriously you would know better than anyone else would… my entire right arm(including my delt and lat) is stronger than my left because I run food at night and have to carry like 5 plates with a completley out stretched arm

also my right quad is bigger and my left calve is bigger from skateboarding

Yo, that’s bad-ass, man. I fuckin’ hate pull ups. Good job.

The best way to get good at doing pull ups…

is doing pull ups. Sounds stupid right?? Get somebody to spot you at your ankles crossed behind you…then start doing pull ups…try a supinated grip for a little while and work up to a pronated grip. Motor units have alot to do with strength, especially to new lifters…these nerves get larger in the areas of muscles being worked, until they reach a certain point, where your body then recruits MORE motor units in the vacinity to facilitate the lift. What I’m saying is this. You won’t get stronger in a lift unless you are doing it…or a movement almost identical…lat pulldowns hardly count. This isn’t me busting on you, far from it…I want you to hit that goal of yours and if you do as I say, you’ll reach it in days. I hit upper body twice a week…when I was trying to get better at pull ups…it was the first pulling movement I did every upper body workout. I can do 10 DEAD HANG pull ups without too much trouble now.

Be careful with all the negatives and forced reps…they are great for really shocking your body, but they also shock the shit out of your CNS…use them sparingly. It’s real easy to do too much when you have a spotter yelling “all you!!”

It’s funny you mention the ice cream…I’m reading this book right now and ice cream made the clean eating list…of course it’s not for people trying to lose weight, but for others it definitely has its uses. The sugar in most ice creams is real sugar, not high fructose corn syrup (bad), and it causes a rise in insulin levels (good) without a corresponding rise in blood sugar (bad, except post workout)

This book says that red meat and ice cream are a few of the only foods that can do this…interesting stuff huh??

Oh, you love it.

Anyways, thanks alot for the info, it REALLY helps for me to know that.

wow, alot of very interesting reads! im one with a mediocre type metablism, the more fatty foods i eat the pounds slowly add to my body. i used to play football (7 years around) and was really into fitness. but after while after school and getting a woman for life, i got lazy.

sometimes it worries me that its gonna affect my health permanetly, but i cant stop. Though i do alot of activities and alot of outside work that involves heavy lifting. i live on the third floor so that kinda helps for some exercise. im starting to see stretch marks too/ and im really wanting that to stop. i have two so far, but no mas. can you give me some tips on how to manage my 200 pounds and keeping it. I feel the beer has also grown mass to my body. I stay away from pork at all cost and I do eat alot of chicken and red meat as well. i drink alot of beer and eat alot of junk food. And can go on average through a gallon of milk every 2-3 days I mainly eat pastas and pizza, beans (italian food fav)

I still have the body mass of a football player, and jsut a tuff gut right now. i want to eventually get 220 at least. (i’ve come from being 180 since senior year and has taken 3+ years to get to 200, but my metablism feels like its fading)

There’s this argument if you hit a plateau, you should start trying periodization.

I’ve been lifting for a while now (far more than one year), and I still have more to grow.

Should I even bother with periodization at this point if I still can grow much more?

Sarcasm?

Well, I know, what I said is obvious. But some of working out IS obvious.

Here’s a general tip for everyone that reads this stuff:

Doing SOMETHING is superior to not doing anything at all.

3 sets of 10? 4 sets of 15?

Fuck, just do SOMETHING. …You know?

But I know, I don’t have the physique of a giant or the knowledge of a personal trainer. Why bother listening to what I’m saying?

Trippy.

These things tend to change I’ve noticed. A long time ago, cigarettes were considered good for you.

By the way, I’ve heard of studies that now say a glass of wine a day ISN’T as good as they thought and they don’t recommend it anymore.