We already defeated Sheng-long! The Akuma Video Thread

Does chocolillo still play? I’ve not seen him in a while.

Also you’ve gotta give some credit to Fuma. cl.strong anti airs? He was definitely punishing that tech mashing but from the looks of it he gave up on crossup tatsu because he kept wiffing, huge opportunities lost, that definitely gets in your head.

First I’ve seen 1:12 also. That’s not actually stuffing mashed lp.dp is it? Would love to test that myself but won’t get time to go into the lab before a local tourney tonight.

Yeah, I often see him online and playing SSF4 on my friend list. Haven’t played with him in a while tho.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that Fuma is a bad player or anything. He’s quite good. I’m just saying that there are a few better Akumas and another few that are more or less on par with him even in Europe.

Yeah I don’t disagree with that.

Must have not been online at the same time as him the past few nights, not had much time recently. In fact I need to have games with all of you, please hit me up if I don’t send you a message first.

In response to your youtube comment. The reason I was using jab DP was because there was enough lag to mess up the sweep timing. I’ll take the better position over the extra 40 damage in a situation that I can’t use the sweep.

My online tactics are much different from my offline tactics. Offline you can actually play footsies, punish s.HK, hit confirm off dive kick with c.lp Hp instead of jab x 3, and in general respond without fear of dropping everything. I go for the easier solutions when lag inhibbits me.

I have the bad habit of always going for the harder links even if there is lag. The c.lp s.hp link is easy enough i almost never miss it unless the lag is terrible. Tatsu > sweep on the other hand is really easy to fuck up even with minimal lag.

The thing with lp shoryu vs akuma is that unless your opponent is close to the corner he can always teleport as soon as he sees the air hado and you cannot do shit about it. That’s why i never use it vs akuma. Also, the damage difference, on a low health char like akuma, is still considerable

Lol, excuse me for my ego but.
What the hell is that based off?
Online matches?
Kurosaki is hella free imo and he doesnt even play akuma anymore.

The only ones doing well in major tournaments are chocolillo, zack (who lives in japan now so doesnt really count) and me.

You think that because you won some online matches from me I’m instafree?
My tournament record says otherwise.

Btw, I’m the only Akuma in Europe that makes top8 in majors.

I know I sound like a dick now but really, I hate people comparing on faulty basis

Here is the last video of the set

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Also a bonus, here was a tournement I was at last month.

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I’m the guy in the WSU t-shirt. :slight_smile:

MBR is right - he performs in tournies. Really nobody cares about online or casuals.

No offense to any players out there but from what I have seen of match vids the only Akuma players in Europe I feel are good is chocilillo and MBR.

Volcanic Akuma just isnt good, imo.

Ive gone pretty even with him, except one day when I was playing on my old busted pad and he stomped me

Idk Ive just always hated his style

Kurosaki DOES play in offline tournaments here in italy and he always wins or places really good.

Unfortunately, unlike you, he’s a grown man with a family so he cannot travel to international tournaments as much as you can. You know, kids, work…or wait, you probably don’t.

Chocolillo is indeed better, zack…hmnnnn, I don’t know. Isn’t he playing Yun anyways?

Btw, he does still play with akuma, but online he fucks around with Yun and Rose sometimes.

And no, he’s not “hella free” and you’re not “instafree” because I beat you in our ft.5. I never said that btw, but you aparently like to put words in my mouth. I know it was online and it didn’t mean shit, that’s why I never even mentioned it on this forum.

I actually think you’re really good. I just said that I feel that Kurosaki is still better than you. I’d really like to see some matches between you two, lol. The only intl. tournament Kurosaki went to lately is Cannes. Too bad you weren’t there. In 2010 he placed top 16 and EVERY top player from Europe was there. including japs (Eita, Daigo, Fuudo, Desora). And in the 2v2 tournament he came 4th with RickyTTT losing to Eita/Daigo Team.

And as a side note, not to take anything away from you, but at the “majors” you went too, a lot of top european players were missing. This year’s SVB was quite disappointing tbh, and so was the german sbo qual. I mean, Diego umejuarez was in top 8 with his 3 month old Akuma…

The day i’ll see you placing in a tournament by beating StarNab, Evans, Louffy, Alioune, Ryan, Renegad, Dieminion, chocolillo and the likes, then you can say that you REALLY achieved something and can start being arrogant about it. But until then, you still have a lot to prove before being able to talk about yourself like that.

COME AT ME BRO!

Fuck me this Akuma forum is too entertaining. High level beef for sure!

Where? Where???

hehehe

This is like…the PERFECT time for this interview, heheh

http://lowlandlions.com/blog/POST_EVO__SVB_2011_QA-3589.html

a small extract:

**BUT EVEN IN A BEST OF THREE THE BEST PLAYERS STILL WIN SURELY?
**
RH: Well, strong players will win for sure, and as for the best player winning? Well that’s a maybe, but these days there is far too much credit given to tournament wins in my opinion, and this is because the new generation do not fully understand the depth that player’s skills go to and how long it takes to get to a point where you can really say one is better than the other.

SF4 is not so shallow that all can be revealed in just four-nine rounds. Yet people take these matches and create their own player ranking lists. This kind of thing reminds me of players thinking they can take on top heads when they don’t have a chance. I think overall this clearly shows a lack of understanding for the real gap that exists between these players and top players.

It’s similar to trying to grade two players based on two games. It’s also many players like that that say stuff like: “Yeah he’s good, but where did he come in the tournament”? But I mean, “Really”? Is that all it is now? You’re not good unless you win a tournament or place top 8? That is ridiculous and totally stupid. I mean take Dieminion and Sanford Kelly, now these are clearly two of the best SF4 players in the US but where did they place in EVO? This for me shows you that you just cannot grade players based on tournament performance only.

**YES THIS IS TRUE. **

RH: I mean let’s look at SBO for example, Super Battle Opera is one game, just one game. Yet people still say stuff “Oh, so and so lost to so and so in SBO…” as if that proves or means anything. And even EVO or any other major. It’s only 2 matches people, just two matches. Winning two matches against anyone doesn’t make you better than them.

**HAVE YOU EVER FOUND THIS HAPPENING TO YOU? CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS HAS HAPPENED IN YOUR CAREER?
**
RH: Well, I beat Filipino champ with Sagat the first 2 matches in a ft5 then he got 5 in a row. Latif got 3 games on me then I got 5 in a row. I beat Daigo in tournament when he was better than me. The truth is, in the first couple of games players are still feeling each other out and have not even nearly reached the peak of their game yet. It is foolish to think that a player’s (especially a top player’s) game is so simple it can be laid out in two matches. I mean just to put some random players on the table, do you really think you can fully understand a player like Alioune or Iyo or Justin Wong in merely 2 games?

If this is true then we are clearly playing the wrong game. It can’t be that deep at all if everyone/everything can become clear in just two games. There is room for change, and adaptation to change in such a short set but it‘s limited. However of course I know tournament organisers are bound to the use of such rules due to time restrictions and that is totally understandable. That isn’t what I’m complaining about.

I just think people need to realise that just because I beat Daigo and other world class players in tournaments it doesn’t make me better than them, or just because I lost to someone in a tournament, it doesnt make them better than me. I notice that people always use foolishness like this in their arguments and it needs to end because no truth is being laid out using this format to prove or disprove players.

Ok, so Poongko got 2 wins over Daigo, I mean, I admit because I saw it live, it was amazing. Especially the perfect at the end. But however amazing it was it was an amazing 2 wins, just 2, not 10 or 20 but just 2 lol.

Getting crazy and saying Poongko owns Daigo now is stupid. It’s almost as bad as someone beating you one game online and uploading it as if they want to make some sort of statement.

Btw this is one of the latest by Kurosaki. I think he played great the matchup.

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Kinda depressing that in the grand finals he picked Yun and ripped the very same guy to shreds lol.

Crouch tech mashing Bison’s FTW! Although REALLY solid play by this guy man, shiiitt that was some good stuff to watch.

Van Dammage though, what an epic tournament name! Haha

@Superlollo

I really don’t want to get involved in a flame war.
You presume I don’t have alot to do IRL.
This couldn’t be more wrong, the only reason I can go to international tournaments regularly is because of my sponsor.
I’m looking for a house to live in with my girlfriend and also enrolled in a fulltime university study.

OT, you contradict yourself abit by throwing ryan harts interview in my face while you claim he did 1 tourney in Cannes and finished real good.
A friend of mine Bushin finished top16 at svb 2010 ultimately getting eliminated by daigo.
I beat him in tournaments and moneymatches ever since.

How can you claim I am worse than him if you say tournaments are not a viable way of telling skill?

Come on guys, you are all good players. Let’s just help each other get better and be friends. Kumbaya, anyone?

BTW Dieminion is not a European player - he’s in my neck of the woods (NYC) and wins pretty much every local tournament.

I lost to yota. And you know i wasn’t really playing the game because of my thesis right I came to support the ranbats even though i was in poor shape.
anyway both you and kurosaki are good players makes no sense to argue over who is better.

Premise: I also don’t mean to start a flame war. Unlike some other people on this board I always considered you to be a nice guy. Anyways, let’s proceed…

Believe it or not, I didn’t mean to imply that you don’t do shit in your life.

I’m just saying that going to university and having a full time job, a wife and 2 kids is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.
And I can say this because I’m 25, i have a degree in economics and I just started working 1 year ago. And I can tell you for sure that when I was studying I had A LOT, and I mean A LOT more time to play SF than I do now (and yes, I also had/have a gf). If you also consider that Kurosaki has a family of his own, it’s quite evident why he doesn’t have nearly as much time as you do dedicate to this game. He plays online 1/5 of the time you do and he has a lot less chances to travel internationally.

Now, back to the skill level, even by playing online, I can tell you that his footsie game is simply so much better than yours. He was one of the best european Akuma 3s players when both you and I were still playing Zelda and the likes. If I do a ft.5 with him, even online, i’m almost certainly gonna lose it 5-0 all the time. And I can tell you that offline he’s even better than that. You might have some better mixups, but his fundamentals are simply a lot better than yours (and mine of course).

As I already said, I think that you’re really good with Akuma, but I also feel like he’s still much better than you. At the current rate, you’re probably eventually going to become better than him, for the obvious reasons stated above, but as things stand now, he’s definitely the better player. You’re just sounding very arrogant by saying the contrary just because you recently placed well in 2 majors (if we even wanna call the german sbo qual. a major…really???). And even at SVB, what really “famous” (if we wanna call them like that) players did you beat to get into top 8? And even in top 8, who did you beat?
I’m telling this to you again, I still have a lot of respect for what you did at SVB, even if the real top players weren’t there / they placed ahead of you, but this just isn’t enough to make me believe that you’re the #2 akuma in europe.
And you saying that Kurosaki is “hella free” made you sound even more of an arrogant dick (although you probably didn’t mean to).

I won’t even get started on the you vs. Bushin thing, because that ultimately doesn’t even make sense. I fail to see how you consistenly beating ONE player can mean anything.

Online play and casuals are still SF, and although i’m not a “pro” by any means, I feel like I have the necessary experience to tell who is the better player having played both of you.

With all of this being said, I wish you good luck with your next tournaments and I do hope that you’ll ultimately become the better akuma player in Europe because you’re putting tons of work into getting better. I just hope that you won’t become too arrogant in the process.

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