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Wow, alot of mistakes on Infiltrations part. He’s lucky to come away with the win in that fight.
I liked the intentionally whiffed air balls in the corner as a means to sneak in a grab. I’ve been meaning to adopt this trick but I haven’t committed it to memory yet - seeing it in action against Rose here pointed out how effective it can be 
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My best Infiltration impression. If anyone could tell me how to deal with this Ultra I would appreciate it.
Yeah that’s a neat gimmick. I do something similar, but I throw the short one right in front of them so it doesn’t hit and get the grab.
Luffy got third by defeating Infiltration. Infiltration must now know that you have to sweep Rose after BnB and you can really only palm strike as DF pressure because her soul throw eats up dive kicks and throw.
The best way I have found so far is to basically bait it out and EX Airfireball it. The Air fireballs go just the perfect speed to hit both orbs and if they miss and hit her it is the same effect. Just have to be careful when you release them since she is going to be charging forward like a bat out of hell. If you try to use a normal airfireball she can reflect it back, but with the EX if she tries to reflect it she will get hit by the second one and lose her Ultra.
Edit: Hey wasn’t I in the room when you played those matches? I thought that guy was using turbo.
What were they if I may ask?
Some good Tokido and Eita matches in the recent Nagoya Street Battle. Even one between the two.
Not enough sweep after tatsu. Demon flip kick instead of palm. Kick loses to ex soul throw. Attacking her ultra. You just need to back off of that thing.
Links?
nsb 07/04/10 04:02AM, nsb 07/04/10 04:02AM nsb_sf4 on USTREAM. Other Gaming
lots of tokido if u look around.
Here:
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^ Not an amazing guy player, but I think this does demonstrate that guy can’t do crap against safe jumps and c.MK on wake up.
Why do you say stuff like this like it works on people 100% of the time lol. You play a scrub and preach like it’s canon. I’m not trying to sound like an ass just saying.
Preech mista west
Never said it is 100%. I have been playing long enough to know there is always a way out even if that way is simply to block.
I have actually been playing a good Guy player recently so I have had time to experiment with wake up pressure. Guy’s wake up options outside of his EX Tatsu are slow enough that you can play OS games with him. He does also have the option to EX Dash and FA Dash on wake up, but you can switch to a palm safe jump to stop that. Though his EX Dash can actually be hit out of the start up before his armor is applied oddly enough. Also even if he does use the dash all of his options out of the dash can be punished. His EX Elbow Charge gets beat out by jumping attack because it doesn’t have invincibility on start up.
His EX Tatsu can be hard to safe jump though since it is a 4 frame start up, but outside of that his other wake up options don’t have enough invincibility to do anything. His normal Tatsus are at least a 6 frame start up so once he runs out of EX meter he is fresh out of options.
His second Ultra does mess with some of the safe jumps however. If he has U2 you should definitely be careful pressuring his wake up. His Ultra 1 on the other hand is something like a 11 or 12 frame start up so it isn’t going to punish anything.
You are welcome to try some of these in training mode or try them against a knowledgeable Guy player. He has one good wake up option and if you get around that the rest can be beat quite easily. Again nothing is 100%. I have yet to encounter a wake up option he has that can’t be dealt with. I should make a note, his wake up is an odd ball wake up. He sort of crouches at the end of his stand up motion and is still invincible.
Whats up, Loyal. I´m not sure if you remember me, but we played a few matches on the PC and you gave me some quite helpful tips. My GFWL tag was Gouki 83.
I recorded a few matches against a friend of mine who mains Guy. I´d appreciate it if you could check them out and comment on the critique thread.
Here´s the link to my YT channel:
Thanks in advance!
When I get the time I can take a look at them.
I haven’t played very many Rose’s since Super came out, but I do distinctly remember one time using a very deep dive kick against Rose when she used ultra 2 on wakeup and it beat the ultra clean, was in the right corner. I feel like I hit her in a place where the orbs weren’t able to touch me.
Don’t think so. I’m pretty sure she is completely able to block.
From the looks of the frame data the startup is the same as Akumas u1 and has 5 recovery frames (total duration), what ever that means.