Bump cause it might help someone.
FAI_CW
46
Nice read.
I definitely have to learn how to actively think about what Iām doing during matches. I either auto-pilot, or canāt think quickly enough about a solution mid game.
I hope that this comes with experience. I havnāt been playing for long, only a couple of months.
The best way to think is to not think, but you must first learn various ways of thinking then apply those thought patterns to expected outcomes in certain situations. You train in various thought patterns for long periods to gain experience and after enough experience, you must learn to break down the patterns that you have learned, so that that you can apply them at a later time any time you want. Once you have have achieved the no thinking, you will have become unbeatable.
Comes with time and playing better players. I used to auto pilot way back when as well.
@RagingStormX Great read, but referring to the last 2 recent posts; do you think new players should be trying to implement these advanced strategies and thought processes as soon as possible or focus on other fundamentals like anti-airing, developing a ground game, blocking, etc. ?
I ask because of what FAI_CW said - ācanāt think quickly enough about a solution mid game.ā. I have the same problems. When my brain is focused on things like āheās close enough to jump so I gotta be ready to AAā and āI just got knocked down, holy shit wtf is he going to do nextā, thinking about things like mind games or doing things in the sonichurricane link seems like astrophysics.
Do you think a player should focus solely on fundamentals and get beat down until the reach the point where fundamentals become second nature and THEN work on developing things like advanced footsies and mind games?
OR
Start thinking about the advanced stuff as soon as possible, even if 90% of your brain power is focused on AAing a jump in or landing a punish combo? Would that payoff twice as much in the long run (even if the beat downs last twice as long) or are we stunting the development of fundamentals if we dive into the deep end too soon?
You always want to start at the basics, but sooner or later you have to challenge get yourself to the advance stuff. Advanced things wonāt be useful if you donāt have the fundamentals.
I think now more than ever with the addition of SFV is this post relevant. I hope the '16ers get a look at your post.
6ix
52
Iām pretty much an SF newbie. Only played for a few months on and off.
Back when I played SSF4/USF4 I did a lot of autopilot nonsense and didnāt realize the importance of adapting. Not to mention doing moves with some sort of reason.
Also I really like the bit you mentioned on training mode. Iām guilty of just going in to learn combos, but becoming more familiar with situations would help me react to them better in matches.
This post was a great read though. The info will be helpful to us new players jumping into SFV.
Thatās the main reason for the bump. When this was on the front page of srk years ago, a lot of people said it really helped.
Oh fantastic! I never thought of Street Fighter as if it was Action Chess.
I do not think that is always the case. In GGPO where you play mostly 10+ matches against the same person, sometimes the journey is more interesting than the goal.
Even if you win 20-0, some interesting, funny and spectacular things might happen in the few rounds you might lose.
I mean in the case where you are blatantly outclassed, if you are new to MvC2 and go play Justin Wong in his prime you arenāt going to learn anything.
FAI_CW
57
Yea, I played an Akuma recently that just completely destroyed me.
I donāt have the match recorded either, so I donāt know what to take from said match.
All I remember is that the Demon Flip mixup got me hard and his hit confirms were on point.
DANZAN
58
The way you handle losses is what ultimately will decide how good you become as a competetive SF player.
Thatās true, but you still need to understand why you lost also.
CEE330
60
Good read, i this should possibly be a sticky as itās helped me and many others reflect on the approach to matches
Glad you like it and I hope it helps
Kuniku
62
Something Iāve been pondering on recently is how to ātrainā myself to think during matches, my execution isnāt bad - I play to my level as it were. Iām told I have a reasonable footsie game, and against similar level players I hold my own. But what Iāve realised playing some of the slightly (and much) better players at my local, is that I donāt āthinkā during matches. I can watch other people play, or watch YouTube videos, and spot that someone is becoming predictable, that they always DP after such and such or whatever. But I never think like that in my matches, I just kind of react to what they do - which in turn makes me more predictable opening me up for nasty reads.
But Iāve no idea how to go from being able to spot those trends in videos, to being able to do it while playing. Iām not a new player, Iāve been playing for years, but its only really just dawned on me what is stopping me from progressing. Everyone calls it chess or as in this post action chess. And says that it is all about the mind games etc. But I think I play with my brain turned off xD
bump before itās cached.
Thanks again RagingStormX!
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