VF5 vids still up at a-cho. I suck at VF pretty hardcore, but even I wouldn’t say it was a slow game.
can u link me plz?
I think the main reason why VF never really got as popular as Tekken is because of the block button. For me, being an SF player I’m so used to holding back or down back that hitting a button to block takes a long time to get used to. It also takes an incredibly long time to master just one character in VF and being able to pull of combos consistently. If SF is complicated for scrubs then imagine VF, that’s like a dyslexic taking Calculus IV with an abacus.
I can’t count how many people(scrubs) ask me how to block in Tekken. So I don’t know what you’re getting at.
To me, Tekken was always the slower paced one when compared to VF. When I play one after the other, Tekken feels like almost half the speed. There just doesn’t seem like there is a lot going on in Tekken in my opinion. It’s a great game, don’t get me wrong, and my second favorite 3d fighter, but meh. Anyways, to the OP, when I went to Brazil to stay there for 2 months, I actually came by a lot of VF3 machines, which shocked me. A lot of good players too. The DC was kinda shit though, and never really got into it, mostly went to the arcades we used to have in my area.
And here I thought it was because the hyenas killed him.
Speaking of Taka, I always thought it was a lame excuse that they didn’t put him in VF4 (or 5). They could’ve just made him unable to tech roll, but he weighs so much you only get maybe 1 string OTG attack before he can get up. Personally I think that’d be quite fair and work well.
So why is the DC port of VF3 so bad?
taka seemed like a beast in videos on youtube, was he really good? his throws seemed awesome
They had problems at the time porting the game over from Model 3 (and still to this day there are problems since Lockheed Martin/Sega’s design of the Model series was in simple words, crazy), and the DC port was outsourced to Genki and was not made by AM2.
Looking at the sales and popularity of both games, no your not.
Although, I personally think think VF is better than Tekken. After I played VF4: Evolution, I just couldn’t go back. Like CarpeNoctumXIII said VF “feels” a lot faster when you play it and the three button lay is surprisingly fun. Still, both are great games.
But getting back on topic, I never actually played any version of VF3 which is funny because I have played the arcade version of every other VF (except VF5… yet).
thats interesting info, But to me I;m more wondering the technical details of why it sucks. was the gameplay different? i remember the graphics were not quite as good.
but i havent touched the dreamcast version since i rented it the week of DC’s launch lol
If I remember correctly, the gameplay was pretty accurate, it was the visuals of the game that made it LOOK bad next to games like Soul Calibur or Dead Or Alive 2. The game just didn’t feel or look right.
Taka was pretty much tops because of the fact that most throws and juggles were useless, and his throws were great for ROs and he had a good number of juggle starters and mid/low mixups.
But mostly because most things didn’t work on him and other things did made it a lot easier for him. LMAO at One Foot Throw
iunno what it is, about VF then…I guess just like Tekken better.Maybe it’s he characters or the moves iunno.I never seen any really amazing moves in VF but I still like VF becuase it’s the most realistic fighter out there.I think VF5 will change the way the average gamer looks at VF.Cause i tried to play against people i know but they won’t take the time to get better at it so i just destroy them and then they say “pop in Tekken”.
Could you elaborate please?
Also there IS a working proto of VF3 for the Sega Saturn. It had an add-on with extra Ram/processors or something. Some collector has it, I’ve seen pictures a couple years ago…
Given that there was a version of Shenmue for the Saturn (search Youtube), a version of VF3 being planned wouldn’t be too surprising, though it probably would have ended up looking more like Tekken 3 (not bad, but not as good). VF3 came out in 96 and there were a few years before the Dreamcast came out, so one might expect they wanted to have a console version, and decided the Saturn couldn’t handle it.
As for the a-cho vids: they ask for people to not link to the video page, and only to the main page. So got to a-cho.com, click “arcade,” and find the button in the frame on the lefthand side which is above the VF5 icon.
Should say mov.html in your status bar at the bottom of your window.
from what I remember in the DC version the character would bounce a bit higher off of some moves, I think that was the main complaint
Yes, I’ve also heard that this supposed Saturn port of VF3 used extra hardware that utilized the cartridge slot (dunno if it was a RAM cart or a cart w/ extra hardware). I also recall reading how this port was friggin’ ready to go to print after being in development for a long while, but got shelved amidst the revealing of the Dreamcast in mid-1998. If anybody can make that convoluted Saturn hardware sing, it’s Yu Suzuki and Sega-AM2.
As far as Saturn Shenmue goes…I still think that footage was running off a developemnt system and not stock Saturn hardware. Not to mention I’ve heard how the Saturn’s sound CPU was put into play as well to achieve that performance, meaning the game would’ve had little to no sound/music.
Back to VF3, as we all know the DC/NAOMi was superior to Model 3 (but not by much IMO, think of the jump from Gamecube to Wii. Testament to the M3’s powerful yet complicated hardware) so this time around the port’s problems can’t be blamed on underpowered hardware. So considering Genki was behind this M3 port…how are all the other Model 3 game ports for DC???
Oh…and I think VF5 is the first instance in which ALL of the VF females look remotely hot. Aoi looked like a blocky dog in her first apperance. Now they all look hot and are wearing more skimpy clothing…keep in mind this is excluding Eileen the jailbait.
They weren’t very good, with the exception of VOOT which AM3 worked their asses on to port, while it was near perfect it was still missing many details and effects from the original game.
The hardware was just too different and maybe they could have lost their original data. lol
This info is just off the top of my head from old articles of years past.