And how would cross-platofrming hurt? That being said, I’m skeptical. I’d wait for official information- and I would get the last version- figuring it would be a later revision. Part of me wonders though if Sega would give Sony a vers A and Microsoft a vers B just to screw sony over for some reason…
Probably not, but you never know. There’s a full year wait, so time to save up- and nothing launchwise for PS3 makes me want to spend money.
VF5 is PS3 exclusive for hardware reasons. I’ll go into it later, but I swear on my genitals that the VF team personally explained this to me and it’s completely true. It’s not that they hate Microsoft, or because Xbox isn’t J-friendly, it’s mostly just because the arcade board’s graphic card is identical to the one in the PS3, so it obviously makes the port a hundred times easier to do.
I’m dead serious, that’s what they said.
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Personally it wouldnt bother me which system it gets released for. What you said makes sense, but you should never doubt the power of Uncle Bill’s wallet. Lol.
Here is what I think. Having gone to E3 2006 and seeing VF 5 in action, I must say that it is a fine game. It has better animation and a smoother flow than VF 4 and vastly superior visuals. Now after playing the PS3 I can safely say that it can easily reproduce the visuals, but that’s not saying much because so can the 360. The problem lies with the absence of online play.
How would online play kill the game for you? You will have the choice of playing the game offline and never even bothering to go online. But for those of us who don’t care about the frames being off a bit just for some good old fashioned fun, missing online play makes a difference. The online play of yesteryear is gone, now online fighters play almost exactly as they do offline. In some cases, you forget that you are playing online. I will not be buying VF 5 for the PS3 at all because without competition, I have no reason to play it. The CPU aggrivates my ADD and causes me to quit after 10 minutes of play. You can’t set up the CPU with tricks and play mind games with it.
I understand the whole frame data issue with online fighters but at least it’s not unplayable when done right.
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From my observations at the E3 this year, the PS3 has no apparent graphical advantage over the 360. It’s basically a 360 with a few bells an whistles such as the memorystick and Blu Ray player that costs way too much. All the games with the exception of Assasins Creed and Heavenly Sword were mediocre at best. They won’t get my money for at least 2 years when Metal Gear 4 comes out.
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Actually, an AI can use setups and ruses, if they program it right. VF’s AI is the best AI this side of a Stardock PC game- so trust them to make it real good…
That’s not the point I was trying to make. I meant to say that I get no satisfaction from defeating the CPU. When you defeat a worthy human opponent, you can take satisfaction that you were able to best someone with the ability to think, judge and react to your advances. The CPU cannot do that and I feel empty when I beat the CPU opponents no matter how complex the AI is in VF. Multiplayer is the way to go with any fighting game or else it gets stale really quickly. How many times have any of the PS2 fans played 3rd Strike against the CPU in the last week? Probably very few, on the other hand the Xbox players who like 3rd Strike have more than likely played it, latency or not.
The reason is the need for human competition. Those Xbox players have the option of playing most fighters online with the exception of Soul Calibur 2. Face it guy’s the Arcade scene has dwendled, even though I still go to the Arcade every now and then for some 3rd Strike. Many of you don’t even have Arcades near your homes so online would be your only option if you don’t have many friends that like fighting games. My situation is that my friends are not always willing to play me because I am too advanced for them, thank jeebus for online!
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I guarantee you that diehard VF fans, desperate for comp in the US or not will not stand up for a random ass loss to some Jacky/Pai/Lau player using simple PPPn mixups due to lag fucking them over. Or that jab->throw that could’ve been avoided if it weren’t for latency. They’d have to dumb down the game to cater to those that have the aforementioned ADD and can’t play against one of the best fighting game AIs known to man at this point in time. AM2 knows what they’re doing here, and frankly I agree with them 100%. Fuck the easy way out. When there’s ZERO chance of a random hiccup in the connection(aka when Internets Mark 2 comes out), THEN I’ll be willing to play VF online. Or Tekken for that matter. A LOT more shit happens in that important frame that gets dropped in VF than in DOA.
Personally, I say give them the option, even though everything you said above is correct- not a big deal in my case- I’m still deciding if the PS3 is worth it for one game. Probably not- I still have Kaillera for online games- and that’s good enough for me for now.
The big reason for the wait is to see if that rumor for X360 is real or not… (I’m thinking it’s not, but I’d rather waste less money on an X360)
if online is in, that’ that’s good, if it’s not in I won’t care too much because I go into phases where I completely quit playing online all together
Every game that I played Online, I soon quit after a month or two… even SFAC on Xbox Live I just quit going online.
I still play SF3TS with my friends, but not online anymore.
If VF5 doesn’t have online play, I wouldn’t feel hurt because I tried DOA2 Ultimate Online and it had major hicups and lag that made it not fun at all
Amen.
And last I checked VF was never meant to be a FUN game. Correct me if I’m wrong. Most of the Japanese I play don’t play it out of simple enjoyment.
Then why do they play it? Are they trying to get good enough to get paid? I don’t know about them, but at least I think it’s fun…
I have more fun with VF than any other fighter.
I guess that means I’m in the minority…
There is no reason to say X game is better or worse online than Y game. Any player would want as perfect a response as possible, i don’t really catch myself saying “well if my move doesnt come out in DOA it’s ok, but in VF it’s not”. In every game the goal is to land the moves you intend to, and in every game not hitting those moves could mean winning or losing.
One of the problems with the FGC is the continual double standard in place, even when serious players lose nothing with online play, they continue the elitist stance where 20 people playing seriously is better than 200 people where 50 of them would probably play seriously. Then somehow they continue to proclaim that fighting games are worth investing time and/or money into. We are so self consious about ‘selling-out’ that we end up just selling ourselves short with decisions like “If I had the choice between ___ and not using it, and noone having ___, I choose noone having it”.
You don’t need to ‘dumb down’ the game to add online play, you just add online play. The only consideration would be “omg people are going to think they are good because they play online”. My response is “so? it’s better than people not caring about the game at all, which is the current situation”, would someone not release a game in arcades because people will get casual streaks and think they are good?
Although recently it’s become a lot easier to ‘play the game’ instead of ‘playing your opponent’, in the end any great fighting game will about the people playing it moreso than the game itself. So anything you can do to have people involved is a bonus.
Things like good online play, advanced training modes, decent button configuration schemes, etc… should all just be the minimum standard for a game released today, not a idealistic dream.
Don’t get your hopes up. During E3, Kojima stated he views Snake as a “Playstation” character. And if he were to create any other games on the Wii or 360, they would certainly be all-new creations.
Still- for now, I’d suggest waiting and seeing on VF5 for console here in the US. You could buy the import VF5 (PS3 doesn’t have region codes- one benefit of it will be being able to play import PS2 games hopefully)- but they might put out an EVO, or do something for X360 later.
Also, expect price drops to happen quickly, especially if PS3 sales lag- Sony wants that Blu-Ray bad, and I think they’ll do anything to get it.
Well if Sega does do a revision (which they usually do anyway, see in point VF4, and somewhat VF2 and VF3 (VF2.1 and VF3 Team Battle), they could use some neat harddrive updating thing, which you could download patches/revisions onto your hdd.
That’s wishful thinking tho. =/