Vega General Thread: The Masked Narcissist Enters The Tournament

Veserius · 2016-02-26T04:59:56.000Z

you can use jump forward/neutral jump into j.hp against the very biggest characters as well. it’s even more punishable, but the reward is higher.

Rugalitarian · 2016-02-26T05:08:26.000Z

Here are some of the matches from my locals as promised… Definitely have a few things I need to work on.

Vs Vega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TKpCh3EUFA

Vs R. Mika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaGHAQEGYCw

Vs R. Mika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-61gF7IJRe0

Vs. Birdie/Nash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GNQFCofmsc

Vs Ryu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dyy4wMx3MY

Arlieth_Tralare · 2016-02-26T11:28:09.000Z

Moonchilde:

Try l.ASE on Karin’s ex wake up? If it doesn’t beat it, it should at least whiff and give you a punish.

Is that I or L? I’m guessing it’s L for light ASE; try to use the full notation (LP) to make it more clear plox.

Moonchilde · 2016-02-26T12:25:50.000Z

L. l, m, h before specials like s, c, j before normals. LP becomes redundant, we already know it’s light and already know what buttons to press.

Moonchilde · 2016-02-26T15:14:10.000Z

mmmmm c.HP in clawless so good… too bad it doesn’t CC anymore. Would have actually have a useful CC.

Arlieth_Tralare · 2016-02-26T15:36:14.000Z

It’s not going to be apparent to people who are new to Vega.

Also, you have a problem with crouching hard. That’s “ch” which also means counter-hit. That’s why we still use full button notation.

Nekorin · 2016-02-26T16:13:18.000Z

Seems like we have to stick to the ground most of the time vs Ryu and Ken. Even at 2 character spacing away and Vega jumps in when they fireball, they will recover fast enough to srk Vega before Vega can hit them with any air attack.

Moonchilde · 2016-02-26T16:29:21.000Z

Arlieth_Tralare:

It’s not going to be apparent to people who are new to Vega.

Also, you have a problem with crouching hard. That’s “ch” which also means counter-hit. That’s why we still use full button notation.

… what are you going on about? Stop this non-sense.

Moonchilde · 2016-02-26T16:30:26.000Z

Nekorin:

Seems like we have to stick to the ground most of the time vs Ryu and Ken. Even at 2 character spacing away and Vega jumps in when they fireball, they will recover fast enough to srk Vega before Vega can hit them with any air attack.

You have to react extremely fast, pretty much at the point you’re trying to predict it, or use another tool like MT. Can be harder online.

Nekorin · 2016-02-26T19:04:58.000Z

Moonchilde:

Nekorin:

Seems like we have to stick to the ground most of the time vs Ryu and Ken. Even at 2 character spacing away and Vega jumps in when they fireball, they will recover fast enough to srk Vega before Vega can hit them with any air attack.

You have to react extremely fast, pretty much at the point you’re trying to predict it, or use another tool like MT. Can be harder online.

Thanks for the tip :3

Another question, how does vega stop opponents from neutral jumping and doing their nj.mk or nj.hk.

RedVega · 2016-02-26T20:53:18.000Z

Hey guys question,
What is Vega after medium rolling crystal flash on hit?

0? Plus or negative?

Nekorin · 2016-02-26T21:13:22.000Z

RedVega:

Hey guys question,
What is Vega after medium rolling crystal flash on hit?

0? Plus or negative?

+2 iirc.

TheTeaVirus · 2016-02-26T21:57:48.000Z

on hit -2

RedVega · 2016-02-26T22:51:35.000Z

So is it negative or positive?

TheTeaVirus · 2016-02-26T23:10:15.000Z

RedVega:

So is it negative or positive?

it is negative -2 on hit, on block it’s -7

HiyaMaya · 2016-02-26T23:45:05.000Z

TheTeaVirus:

RedVega:

So is it negative or positive?

it is negative -2 on hit,

negative negative 2? So it’s +2 then?

Btw gilley’s frame data is wrong, it’s definitely positive at the very least. Can test it yourself.

Softie · 2016-02-27T00:26:04.000Z

Mk roll is +2 on hit, -7 on block. Lk roll is +0 on hit, -6 on block.

HTBeautiful · 2016-02-27T02:58:49.000Z

Softie:

Mk roll is +2 on hit, -7 on block. Lk roll is +0 on hit, -6 on block.

Lol who has the prima guide cuz my FAT app says it’s 0 on hit. And I’m pretty sure light roll is plus 2 on hit as well you can cr lp for a frame trap.

Softie · 2016-02-27T03:24:52.000Z

HTBeautiful:

Softie:

Mk roll is +2 on hit, -7 on block. Lk roll is +0 on hit, -6 on block.

Lol who has the prima guide cuz my FAT app says it’s 0 on hit. And I’m pretty sure light roll is plus 2 on hit as well you can cr lp for a frame trap.

From the thread below that has the prima guide frame data
imson Terror
LK - 8 | 2/5 | 10 | 0 | -6
MK - 17 | 2/2/5 | 12 | 2 | -7
HK - 19 | 4/3/3/5 | 14 | KD | -8
EX - 16 | 5/3/3/3/5 | 10 | KD | -2 – (Frames 1-84 are projectile invincible)

Matches what’s in the v frames app as well

General_Awesomo · 2016-02-29T07:49:57.000Z

@Moonchilde, about the special move strength notations. Sure, we know what button is used for a light Aurora Spin Edge, but new people that are just trying out Vega may be confused. Also, old school people that use the old SF notations of jab, strong, etc. can still easily read LP ASE as jab ASE.

At the very least, maybe capitalize your button strength notations. A few pages back, I saw one user here quote you on l.ASE as “i.ASE.” Lol, instant ASE? That would be cool.

I’m not being picky, just sayin’.