Vampire Savior: advanced link combos & important notes

I might hit up some 2DF sometime this week. A lot of assigments to finish though =/
Would like to play some VS again sometime

what do you guys think.
out of vs, vs2, vh2

which do you guys prefer?

imo vs2

VS.

No Rikuo, no go for me. Although I did enjoy playing VH1 with Kenuran.

I really don’t think that VS2 is played at all. I hear that it’s overall watered down from VS1. VH is pretty fun though. Anakaris has a chance at winning now.

vs2 and vh2 have some decent qualities:

Lilith has and overhead (standing HK) and her QCB + K can be done in the air

Morrigans dash is more like the Hunter version (and therefore much better than the nerfed crap dash that she has in VS since capcom basically gave the move to Jedah) and she has her Drill kick (DB + kick in the air)

More Char’s special moves have a more “true” anti-air quality to them (Demitri’s DC cant be air-blocked ect…)

Victor has a couple more moves (from Hunter)

Donovan, Phobos/Huitzil and Pryon are in the games (they were omitted from VS cause there wasnt enough software memory to put them in the game)

But it also had some debatable qualities:

Dark Force costs 2 bars and makes all your attacks do red damage

Dark Force doesn’t give the special character specific ability like in VS (Its now an EX button command that still costs 1 bar and the effects last for a limited time and it ends immediately if you get hit)

No dash Links (BB, Lilith, Ank, Donovan, Victor, and Bish cant link combo any moves after any connected poke while dashing which sort of hurts their pressure game)

All air pokes are Hunter style (think of how work VS air pokes when you whiff them, but EVEN on hit as well, meaning no air chains)

Im sure about this one but I think Adv. Guard is done differently (seems to be harder to do)

With all those things there I think chars like Q-Bee, Sasquatch could become more effective offensively and dominate the game more so than in VS since it becomes harder to defend yourself. (Think being crushed in the corner against Sas or Q-Bee with the 2 bar Dark Force activated)

So yea I perfer VS over VS2 and VH2

Don’t give up with this game guys. I have been playing it and even tought I don’t like watching videos of it I can’t stop playing it. Im using Jedah and yesterday a japanese guy call hampster streak me 97 wins withs his Q-bee. I suck but please dont give up I want to learn this game.

I couldn’t actually discern a difference. What changed, exactly?

I actually don’t like this. Jumping is a pretty important factor, and I think it cheapens the game to make it so that, any time someone jumps at you with a shoto character, the answer is always to dragon punch.

This is sooooo stupid, and I hate this. I think it also makes a lot of the best characters even better.

This is also stupid, because they didn’t remove IAD combos. Characters with hop dashes (Talbain, Sas, Felicia) also had their short hop combos and dash links removed.

I tested this to make sure. It seems like the tech hits aren’t inherently different, but the chance of pushing someone back is just lower in general. I tried AGing a bunch of stuff in VH2, and I would almost never get a pushblock unless I got 5-6 inputs. I turned on VS and was instantly able to AG just about everything. …How dumb. :stuck_out_tongue:

Two other subtle things that were changed in VH2 and VS2 that I noticed:

  • Most, if not all, jump attacks which crossed up before have been altered so that they don’t cross up.

  • I’m no expert on BB Hood, but I’m positive that at least two of her moves are different: The ‘throw a big fit’ super is changed so that she dashes immediately on startup, and her J.Hk comes out a lot faster now. I wonder if there’s anything else changed? I also wonder if the faster J.Hk gets rid of her unblockable?

Well overall, I consider VS2/VH2 to be more the “true” sequel to Hunter since its more like Hunter than VS is. In fact, I think that the games are meant to be played at normal or Turbo 1 speed.

I hate Karnov so much. Chars just spam their invincible attacks over and over and you cant really do anything other than use your invincible attacks to knock them out of it, which may not work. The dizzy gimmick really can screw you over in a round and its placement for some characters means that you pretty much cant get hit all or you’ll get stunned and probably finished off from the dizzy combo afterward. The females are all terrible and theres only like 7 or 8 good chars out of 13. It takes too long to throw after a tick.

I wish I never made the thread for that sexist gimmicky piece of crap.

Well that was kinda mean, no offense or anything but you should’ve let the guy get to 100. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Funny cause I do was aiming to play the 100 games to see if he will reach it or I finally break it, but my fingers could not take it anymore. I was playing my lasts games with discounfort becauce I am a stick player but since it die now I am force to using a pad and im not settle yet.

I’ve played Karnov’s once just for shits and giggles. I was on KB and it was one of the most laughable times I’ve ever had playing a fighter. Then I downloaded Breaker’s Revenge and saw how wrong I was.

Hey, I think that Breaker’s is a great game.

Breakers Revenge is much better than Karnov. I think the only thing wrong with the game is that 2 chars have infinities and Bai-Hu is pretty damn cheap.

It can be played on 2DF. Works perfectly (GGPO good)

Ill be in the Savior room more often now that the 3s room is unplayable (mostly playing against JPN player)

If anyone want to play me in Hunter give me a call

EDIT:my Hunter savestate cant be accessed from my usual place so I cant play it on ggpo till I find a new site to host the file

:sad:

Wait GGPO 3s is MORE unplayable? Didn’t think it could get worse…

It would work great if I played people with low ping (< 80ms) and had their ports forwarded properly. But now that’s not the case anymore.

Still have 2DF nyeh?

If anybody wants some matches to watch here’s a link. Just in case your bored. I saw some interesting Victors’ being played.

only for Hunter and Breakers Revenge

EDIT: Breakers is on GGPO now

you know i really hate kenuran…