Vampire Savior: advanced link combos & important notes

Haha, I stand corrected. Thanks for the info.

This is annoying, a few months ago, I could IAD with Bee really fast. But now, I’ve started going slower for some reason.

Hi i’m a beginner at this series. How do i get used to chaincombos? And are all chars rushdown?

To get used to chains you could try:

  1. Practicing at Turbo 1 or 2 instead of T3 until your fingers get comfortable (ggpo is T3 though)

  2. Instead of starting with 5 or 6 hit chains, try 3 hits and working up. c.lk, c.mk, c.hk or c.lk, c.lk, c.rh

  3. Remember you can chain in the air too. This’ll be important for jumping in and meeting people air-to-air. See “Chicken Guard”

Most characters do play their best when rushing down. Demitri might be a little different in this aspect because of his dash, and his main game is getting in position for crossups and unblockables.

This thread was a good read but was lacking demitri stuff so i would appreciate some basics.

play on ggpo alot, Thats the best advice i can give. If you need help on stuff talk to Magnetomaniac or myself

So you can’t tell anything about his cross ups(mentioned twice in the thread never explained). I’m assuming that his unblockables refers to supers?
Can you tick into spd with him?

I’m not worth talking to? :sad:

I don’t see many pple use his spd… tho that doesn’t mean its useless.

demitri’s strategory revolves around controlling space from across the screen, using bats, drills, and high priority/reaching normals. his dp has stupid priority, and he has 3 EX’s that have high utility in regular competative play(imo at least…)

thats all I know of demitri, with a moment’s thought. I find myself to be an untrustworthy authority on him, and merely speculate from previous experiences, watchin/againt him.

at a glance, his medium normals are quite nice too. (frame data)

also something on another note. I’m sure people have noticed that you can throw the opponent during empty chaining(do j.lk[wiff], j.FWD+mp [comes out as throwing the opponent])… I thought that was interesting.

Are there matchup charts anywhere? Tiers don’t do it for me. Thanks for the info so far.

Getting jump in crossups reliably seems to do with how he pokes. I’m looking for examples on the ggpo dojo but the search/“other matches in this set” are acting funny. SHU’s Demitri does it a bit.
Something like:

c.lk x2 (blocked), jump in mk (which might be blocked as normal), land and chain (now crossed up).

Dara’s Demitri on youtube is another good thing to look for.

Another thing is knowing how to positon his drills so they either cross up or just barely nick the opponent, because if blocked (or even hit as normal) you have really bad recovery. Drill cross up on wakeup seems good, as is a “late” pursuit so it gets you right next to them quickly.

When someone’s cornered, if you jumpin as they’re blocking, air-chain and then jab when you land. As they’re coming down, go for an unblockable super. Only way out I believe is a good reversal or Dark Force. Sometimes the jab is blocked though, and I believe this works best if it hits them out of the air.

Random stuff of note, people who can go under Demitri’s fireballs:
Talbain can walk under
Felicia can roll under
Rikuo can dash under (Raptor might be able to as well)
BB Hood can do that little crouch-slide thing (d +3k)

[media=youtube]Tj2prjuYbhs[/media] - Nice drill crossup, super at the end.
[media=youtube]I7wCVOMOU8k[/media] - Dash-up, SPD at the start…hits the crossup but it comboed, dash-up Lvl2 super
[media=youtube]VpN2AM10D5I[/media] (2nd match)
[media=youtube]2i–SRpfMeE[/media] (nice corner stuff at the end)

How do i use his df?

Most use it as a way to get out of pressure. Activate through the offense, attack a bit to push them back then end it when you have some distance, or if you score a knockdown.

From this vid [media=youtube]o3OMh8njleE[/media] looks like if you hit a jumpin during it you can combo to ES drill and/or bats (the vid is just an exhibition though)

and I forgot before, basic combos and combos into super - [media=youtube]UC5nQDCRN_s[/media]

LOL whoops i completely forgot about you :V. SORRY MAN!

I missed this post. There’s a matchup chart here -
http://www.din.or.jp/~waiter-7/zabe04.htm#no.52

But it’s from 2003. An updated tier list is here - http://vampire-dcc.com/column_3.shtml and it has explanations, but of course both are in Japanese :confused:

edit: running the zabe04 page through a translator, it looks like there’s some pretty interesting info along the bottom, like “time to get up and move” chart (very useful for wakeup traps). The main page is here http://www.din.or.jp/~waiter-7/ , and has links to videos spread around in it.

<3 jmin… your demitri is sluttiest of them all :stuck_out_tongue:

short hop

I tried playing on ggpo but it was too much lossy + all help i got from the guy was him calling me idiot

EDIT:
Anyone got vids of Chikyuu playing Anakaris?

Sorry for the double post but do kara cancels exist in this game?

if kara canceling is executing a special move in the initial frames of a normal attack solely to enhance the distance of the move, I don’t believe so.

tho I could be wrong, since I don’t have an eye for kara cancels in 3s, aside from the kara throws

as for chikyuu vids they’re on youtube, not much VS vids in general.

you can kara cancel demitri j.mk xx fireball for meter. i dont try it with other moves though.

btw aya found that kara cancel with the fireball^^…well at least hes the one who told me it