I’d play games where you don’t have to concentrate on the stick. Play bomber man, it’s simple. That would help. You really just need to put in play time on the stick before you’re comfortable with it. Doesn’t matter the game.

I totally understand what you’re saying.

It’s not a matter of muscle memory - your brain is simply hardwired to react with your southpaw.

It’s kind of like having a gun attached to your proper/left hand, but having to reach over to pull the trigger with your right hand.

He’s having to cross-wire his brain.

It’s actually a massive pain in the ass.

It makes your brain hurt for a good long time.

Eventually he’ll train himself up to a competitive level, but there’s always going to be a fraction of a second where he’s having to recalibrate to execute against his genetic hardware.

And thus there’ll be tons of shit that he sees, but fails to execute properly due to said impediment.

I remember finally getting my HRAP 2 in the mail, I hated every second I was on it. I couldn’t dash, I couldn’t do any double motions, every time I tried to super I’d end up jumping. I wanted my money back for about 3-4 weeks. It was very frustrating.

Now about 3 years later, it seems odd that I had any trouble at all, it’s the easiest thing in the world to play on stick for me now. You honestly just have to put the time in, practice in training mode an hour or two a day if you can.

You’ll notice that eventually you’ll be able to do things more consistently on one side of the screen opposed to the other, it’s natural and you have to work on both sides :stuck_out_tongue:

GL and just keep practicing. :rock:

You should really shore up that list:

Tim Armstrong
Paul McCartney
Tony Iommi
Dick Dale (plays left handed on a right handed guitar)

You could always build you one of these.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8359/keyboardstick.jpg

jabhadouken, you’re right, i felt like that everywhere, you said that in a fancy scientific way, but i still be trying to be comfortable with the regular layout for a while.

i did think about that(well i am a keyboard player for life), but since i dont have any trouble using stick with my right hand, i could just switch my sticks layout

I don’t know if you decided to go cross handed or not because you said it was uncomfortable , if its your wrist that hurt(usually from being bone-y) wear sweat bands to reduce the hitting.

SaintMo ill try to use the stick with my left hand for a while.

play geometry wars and get used to the controls and you will be fine :tup:

A custom stick sounds like the best ideas since the new superstreet fighter might not even make it to arcades and with the way the world is working, you would probably never have to visit an arcade again.

This still sounds to me like you can’t execute. Being able to execute isn’t just about being able to do something once or twice in training mode if you have time to prepare; it’s about being able to do it in a match.

You came here asking for advice. Mine is to practice more; both in training mode and in matches. If you want to do something else, that’s all on you.

Our brains are not hardwired to play with joysticks or keyboards. His right hand reacting when he wants to move is, in fact, muscle memory.

I’m sure it will be a bit of a process to develop it with different hands, but it isn’t like his brain can only function one way now.

So you can write, draw, play guitar with both hands?

That makes you ambidextrous, and an exception.

There are a lot of people who can’t even take a piss with their off-hand.

Not meaning to come off harsh, it’s just that facts are facts.

That’s not what we’re talking about here at all. In fact, the OP has never directly stated if he is right or left hand dominant, only that learned to play on KB using his right hand. (Why many keyboard players do this, I’ll never know).

We’re not talking about hardwired hand dominance here, unless I’m really misunderstanding this. He just has muscle memory playing “goofy handed”, not the other way around. Redeveloping the other way isn’t some insurmountable wall, like you claim it to be. Even if this is matter of hand dominance, there are many left handed players that play on a standard layout and right handed players that play Mexican style (or left handed on a keyboard). So I guess I don’t really see the merit of your post.

And for the record, I can contact juggle with my left (non dominant hand). It’s nothing but acquired muscle memory. I’m not born ambidextrous.

I understand that a lot of people can learn to play the other way - I did.

I’m just saying that it’s harder to learn because not only are you learning a new tool, but you are retraining your brain, too.

And yes, you are retraining your brain when you do so.

Much as lefties normally have to retrain there brains in grade school to use right handed scissors due to a usual lack of left handed pairs.

Hand dominance IS hardwired - it ain’t a choice.

i really don’t know what to say

…eh, I think this is just you having never played on a stick before. There are a ton of right-handed people who play on the stick with the standard layout without having to resort to tiger style(cross-armed). Just take it slow and try to practice basic motions and movements until you feel you’ve gotten used to it.

There is one thing I wish to ask though, have you ever played on a standard console d-pad before?

aku, I did and it felt horible cause of the same problem, but i have a pad where analog is in right side and butons are in left side, it feels perfect

Edit: I tried playing on keyboard fighting games using my left hand for movement, i cant play like this too

Remember the Atari 2600 Joystick? It was a right handed stick/left handed fire. Lots of 2 player games had right stick left fire. Most non-competitive games (1 player at a time) had buttons on both sides and you chose your side. In that case, I chose the right hand. When the NES came out, I was finger-typing while resting the pad on the floor. This was easiest because playing with thumbs was awkward and finger typing was like typing on a computer, or pressing buttons. When they include shoulder buttons, that’s when I’m forced to use thumbs on a Joypad.

When my dad bought me an NES Advantage, I complained because a left handed jostick was awkward. The only reason left handed sticks (right fire) are more common is because they mirror NES Pads, and because NES was the most dominant system in history, it just carried over to Street Fighter. If Atari had been the dominant force after 1985, the lefties would be complaining, but someone would cater to their market. The last right handed stick I’ve seen was for the 7800 and Sega Master System.

For Dreamcast and Playstation 1 and 2 fighting games, I might recommend an Alloy Stick for DC or Shadow Blade for PS1/2 It lets you program west to be east, east to be west, north to be south, south to be north and rearrnage the buttons so punches are the (what was) bottom row, kicks on the top (Don’t switch left to right orientation of buttons) rotate the joystick 180 degrees, and voila, right handed joystick. Punches are now upper buttons, kicks are lower buttons, and lights are still index finger, middles middle finger and heavy’s ring finger. There’s only one problem. IF you use your hole hand to press buttons, the left hand is “backcocked” placing your wrist at an unnatural angle. IF it’s true that you plan an offense and react as defense, then since your buttons are offense, you can either reprogram the buttons, so that the upper left button and lower right button are ignored and the contour would flow better for right handers, or if you’ve finger typed like my NES joypad, you can do that too.

As for muscle memory, since I played Street Fighter for the Genesis and Saturn, my finger typing made me left handed in those games, but the physical stick is right handed. I won a decent number of matches with my right handed stick. But one day, when my stick didn’t work, I had to adapt to a left handed stick (right fire). Playing a character I never played in SF4, Rose (I haven’t bothered playing the 1up vs cpu mode before to earn the extra fighters.) i found her best move was the soul throw, which is a dragon punch motion, and believe it or not, I pulled off enough left handed soul throws that I beat that opponent. Surprised both of us. (By the way, we were playing random vs random, on a machine that has the extra fighters, which explains how I got Rose)

I guess I’m one of the few ambidextrous Street Fighters. I prefer my right handed joystick, but can deal with the left. Tomorrow, I’ll write about a product that will let people flirt with right handed fighting, but if they don’t like it, should have a decent left handed stick. This is designed to be a mass market stick if mass produced. One hint is that I cannibalized a Shadow Blade to see if I can make universal ambidextrous stick with design good for both hands. See you tomorrow.

To the OP: Unless you’ve been practicing for like 1-2 months with the stick I don’t see the point in going crosshanded or switching layouts and shit like that. Man up and practice with the original imo. It takes time and it’s awkward for everyone when they start. As soon as you start building some muscle memory all that “pain” goes away. I played on pad and keyboards pre SF4 for my fighters but I stuck with it and don’t have any problems nowadays.

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