I see where you are coming from, but honestly at that point your only option is to find people who actually play intelligently, send them a friend request, and stick to endless and run sets with the people you find that are actually good. I’m pretty bad at this game nowadays, being super rusty and not having a true main means I mostly rely on fundamentals and reads to get my wins. If a person gets the better of me in neutral, I’m usually free as fuck and it’s basically ggs if they run mixups on me since I usually don’t know the matchups well enough to know what to do in those situations.
At this point, I just play characters who I feel comfortable playing lame and passively with, like Chun, Gief, Ryu, Sagat. Complaining isn’t going to make those players just disappear, find players you like and stick to playing with them. You’ll get better way faster that way regardless.
You mean players of these characters being near extinct? Yea it is unreal. These are the types of characters where the person playing them is either a complete novice or good enough to compete at EVO and get far in it. You’re probably a Ryu main. Go practice your combos and fundamentals. Complaining about your inability to deal with them just makes you come off as a scrub.
'kay, so if you have enough skill to actually play it - why are you complaining in the OP? Adapt, train, learn to counter the gimmicks. that’s what this game is about - overcoming your opponent in every way possible, both physically (in the game, I mean) and mentally (mind games and outsmarting him/her)
It’s up to you to punish bad offense. If you can punish it they’ll stop. If you can’t punish it, it’s not a gimmick, you just don’t like how the game is played.
Never blame the other player for doing what works. Blame the game for having nonsense in it or blame yourself for not being able to stop it, whichever is appropriate.
I’ve heard that complaining about stuff like this on the internet ensures that the guys that rely on online gimmicks immediately realize the error of their ways, and decide that they need to stop playing characters they have fun with.
Not sure why everyone is getting all defensive and salty, OP didn’t say anything but the truth.
If you want to fight good people, stick to offline! Otherwise have fun vs gimmicks and people spamming untechable lag grabs.
Adding to OP’s sentiments, fighting against those people will not make you a better player. There is no way to improve as a player fighting against them because they are either gimmicky, laggy, or both. Things change significantly fighting underwater, or when inputs get dropped.
Step one to improvement is internalizing blame. Whenever you lose it’s your fault. It’s not the other guy’s fault that he beat you or made you miserable with gimmicks. In that situation you either had an inflated sense of your own ability, or you tried to play in a connection that was not playable. Neither of those are the other guy’s fault. And if you re-read that opening post the entire thing is blaming other people for playing the “wrong way.” Never is there a reference to “lag makes it hard to deal with things” it’s always “the other players are gimmicky” or “the other player is afraid to fight face to face” or “trying too hard to win in endless lobbies.” When you shift blame to the other player for playing the wrong way you become a scrub, and the opening post is a scrub post.
Any platform for playing the game is worth exactly what you put into it. You don’t magically get good from playing in your local scene and online is not valueless. Online and offline are different, and I’d rather play any game offline. That doesn’t mean that online won’t help you improve. Good advice for the OP is “blame yourself rather than the other guy” not “you’re right bro, you’re a victim of online idiots, all your problems will be solved by never playing online again.”
There is a solid core of good gameplay in there, but you have to learn (and remember) a large number of punishes/counters to abusive tactics. It’s only realistically going to happen if you’re willing to put the time in.
Yeah you’re right. I need to have more people to fight with, I have the odd couple and I much prefer the game when running sets with people, loosing and then chatting to them about how the matchup goes and slowly getting better.
Sadly most people won’t accept your friend request after they have beat you because they just think you’re going to rage when in actually I just want to ask if they have any tips on how to get around that thing that they were annoying me with or beating me with.
I understand this, but again I didn’t complain that I was loosing or I was raging, I was just simply saying it’s not fun.
When I don’t find it fun and I get that many in a row that’s what inspired me to write the post.
I love playing the game and I’m not just a “you have to play a shoto or you’re bad” kind of guy because I play makoto, Dudley, guile, yun which are some of my favorites. I love playing against Cody’s, Zangief’s, Dudley’s etc too.
I don’t find this true, I play on PC and run into quite a lot. Especially recently, I suppose people are trying to play the characters like Vega and Sim for SFV.
Also I play Ryu occasionally for fun who doesn’t. I usually play Guile if I’m trying to win though and switch about with yun, makoto and Dudley.