USF4 | Tier List Thread (updated October 2015)

otori · 2015-12-17T16:47:30.000Z

Yun’s bad matchups according to kazunoko: bonchan, momochi, boxer and elena

jebop · 2015-12-17T17:06:39.000Z

otori:

Yun’s bad matchups according to kazunoko: bonchan, momochi, boxer and elena

… and Tiger Knee (-_-).

Eternal · 2015-12-18T05:14:01.000Z

AceKombat:

Ken’s recovery on fireball is also wrong in the SRK Frame Data section.

I see the problem, thanks. The old wikis put recovery section for fireballs as the total frames. So 47 is the actual total frame count, the 63 is automatically generated based on the rest of the values put in. I’ll fix it. I guess I forgot to fix that when I altered others. I’ll check other fireballs to make sure I got em all.

Edit: I changed them according to the data in the guide books but I’m not entirely comfortable with those numbers as many of the totals didn’t match the old totals. However at the moment my computer isn’t set up to be able to record and frame check everything due to fresh format.

otori · 2015-12-18T07:04:16.000Z

I think they overdid the nerfs to Cammy. Shitastic damage and stun now holy shit.

jebop · 2015-12-18T13:29:01.000Z

Nothing is wrong with Cammy.

Cipher · 2015-12-19T04:02:26.000Z

jebop:

Nothing is wrong with Cammy.

You need a brain for her now, thats a good reason to drop her and switch to Yun or E.Ryu.

Sephiroth73003 · 2015-12-19T19:36:40.000Z

Eh the stun needed to be toned down they probably could have left a little bit more of the damage.

tali · 2015-12-29T07:44:34.000Z

You Def don’t need to use your brain with cammy.

carups · 2016-01-07T16:17:48.000Z

I only started maining Cammy after Ultra and I think she’s pretty strong, but it does seem like Yun does a very similar job much better (and red focus was made for him). And 1f links with strongs or fierces are not really a problem if you can plink.

The thing is to me it seems like she’s a beast due to good design. Her soft knockdowns, jump distance and arc, divekick angle and knockdown distance all work together really well.

MachoRhombus · 2016-02-15T23:27:22.000Z

So.

Can we finally agree that the game’s matchups were not a collection of 5-5’s and 6-4’s and that the game actually had more 7-3’s and 8-2’s by now? I mean, the game is not the main focus anymore, not many feelings will be hurt, we can admit it now.

LoyalSol · 2016-02-16T00:04:17.000Z

MachoRhombus:

So.

Can we finally agree that the game’s matchups were not a collection of 5-5’s and 6-4’s and that the game actually had more 7-3’s and 8-2’s by now? I mean, the game is not the main focus anymore, not many feelings will be hurt, we can admit it now.

Actually I really can’t admit it because there weren’t many match ups that felt absolutely horrible even when I was playing T-Hawk back in AE 2012. And usually those type of match ups were concentrated to characters who typically had multiple 3-7 or 2-8 match ups because of a glaring flaw in their design.

HeavensCloud · 2016-02-16T00:19:59.000Z

MachoRhombus:

So.

Can we finally agree that the game’s matchups were not a collection of 5-5’s and 6-4’s and that the game actually had more 7-3’s and 8-2’s by now? I mean, the game is not the main focus anymore, not many feelings will be hurt, we can admit it now.

I can see a lot of Zangief players thinking this way to be honest but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true. There’s a lot of non-polarizing characters with a shit ton of 5-5 and 6-4/4-6 matchups.

Mike_Robertson · 2016-02-20T02:21:10.000Z

Doctrine_Dark:

Yun Vs Dhalsim is nigh unwinnable. Unless the Yun plays incredibly stupid, of course. Sim cannot win that match. It’s awful.

Poison Vs Hugo sucks pretty bad, too. That has to be an 8-2 match-up or worse.

ryan hart got bodied by snafoo at canada cup. i know it was not his main but his yun is legit

appo · 2019-03-31T14:10:33.275Z

Ropucha · 2019-11-07T18:01:49.833Z

Rubber stamps are pieczątki online in polish:rofl: