1102

Dude that COD comes out at the speed of light, that shit is FAST.

1103

Yea, well at least the first hit of it. Cannot seem to be punished as easily anymore [I Guess less recovery? Idk if its just faster too. And abel’s new ultra is pretty amazing (the look a lot of people hate though) it has Hyper armor, or Ex armor w/e you call it. So it can go through a fireball and it comes out FAST as hell. And has range (Kinda like his ultra 1) real good for countering jump-ins, and mixing up. You can also charge it or something lol.

But this is a ken discussion o= I just hope to see more of it

1104

Still seems like Ken is still unpopular lol, I’ve been scouring for vid footage and I can’t find any to say the least lol. Was hoping to find maybe someone with average combos to confirm some stuff but meh, what can you do.

1105

Yea same, I didn’t see any Ken’s there worth mentioning. Only 2 Ken vids. People did bad testing anyways though, rather fighting then really testing…Just wanted to see a FADC > Ultra though.

And oh and f- Adon lol : P I hate his character already cause hes to much like sagat. And meh…None of the chars in SSF4 I feel …Uh…Attracted too (no not in that way) to main. None are my style I guess. Ibuki seems cool if she comes, and Yuri probably. Guy is cool too but seems kinda weird, who knows idk.

1106

Well what irony…

Ken is one of the most popular character out there but the 80 % of noob players which spams SRK online destroyed his glory in the eyes of top players

1107

Pretty much lol. But that makes the win so much sweeter =P If hes underestimated. I have a gut feeling though everytime I pick Ken, the opponent thinks ''Great another flowchart. -picks Sagat- though lol. even though its probably not true.

Although FB > FADC > Ultra sounds like its gonna be a quick ass ultra, so that’s gonna change a lot.

1108

Ya thats about as close as you can get to an ultra cancel lol

1109

Thank god. Damage reduction if he wants to FADC > Ultra.

FB > FADC > Ultra is bad because it only links if it’s close. You can’t hit confirm either.

1110

ya, not really looking forward to this, is it really a bad thing if this was able to hit full off of a dp fadc? it already seemed weaker then most ultras so we assumed it was juggle friendly…:sad:

Does it feel like capcom wants us to have this glimmer of hope (better ultra, new supposed move) only to have them rip off our heads and shit down our throats

Only time will tell if we truely will get something new

Isn’t it wierd that Ryu is the one that can dp fadc to ultra
and ken supposedly is the one that can fireball fadc to ultra?
seems backwards to me

1111

Well, Ryu can EX FB FADC Ultra already so I guess that kinda counts. I don’t know though, where did the idea of FB FADC Ultra come from anyway? It’s really weird since if it’s true then they must have improved Ken’s fireball by quite a lot, or made his Ultra 2 really fucking fast. Which may make sense considering how unflashy it is. But whatever, I’ll believe it when I see it.

1112

From gamespot:

Ken: Ryu?s best-friend-forever gains the Guren Senpukyaku, a rapid series of flaming roundhouse kicks, to his ultra options. The move is triggered by performing two quarter-circle motions on your controller and hitting all the kick buttons. The fiery series of kicks have** a good range to them and dole out a decent amount of damage**.

1113

AKA most vague description ever.

1114

What do you thought that they would gibe you frame-datas and exact damage output. But good to hear that it isn’t weak as we thought

1115

No, but maybe a comparison to his other ultra? at this point it barely means anything anyway.

1116

Maybe but they don’t say that it is weak and that’s a good sign. I doubt that they tried to combo it and all the stuff

1117

I assume the guy from gamespot hasn’t played SFIV since February and when he says decent amount of damage I assume he has no idea what hes comparing it to. But its not really about the damage its about the setups. Setups which have yet to been finalized and setups yet to have been discovered until after the game is out to the public. I think everything that happened this week should be taken with a grain of salt, they were playing on a beta copy of the game.

1118

Has anyone seen how much damage this thing does yet? I’m also hearing some ultra’s (rog’s new one and gouken’s new one) do loads of stun damage. Maybe there is hope.

1119

Have you not seen Goukens connect his ultra yet? Check out the new vid in that update thread, when it hits it knocks the opponent back into a wall bounce, a big juicy wall bounce, clearly giving you free damage or a reset. This was only a level 1 version of the ultra so it didn’t stun (honda) if it even stuns at all.

I heard a full Balrog ultra is auto stun, but thats def a rumor.

1120

You can c.mk > ex.hado > fadc > shinryuken as it is right now in SFIV. So its nothing new really and its kinda risky if the fadc doesn’t crumple because the timing and distance is strict oh and its 3 bars.

1121

I think the startup of this ultra is faster then his current one. But I guess its kinda hard to hit the Cr.mk > Light hadouken correctly all the time at the right distance, but I can see me trying to use that stuff if its a 2 bar thing. And im pretty sure you can Srk > Full ultra. It probably doesn’t do that much, but from the trailer alone it does more damage then his current FADC > Ultra…And if it stuns as well, then its all good to me. But we’ll see, I hope they make this ultra decent : I like that it goes forward, I hope that it has decent startup

@kishido: that is vague, you could say that for every ultra