Note how and when tokido uses cr.hk it’s before u1. Once U1 he cuts it out completely. U1 eliminates that threat entirely. Smug actually could have punished his sweep in the 3rd round in the corner but he wasn’t looking for it. Lol damn bastard hit me every time though. I can’t wait for the run back man lol I’m so ready.
Oh, I just read about the tokido post.
So the poison match up is heavily in our favor for several reasons.
We win the zoning game, and we win the knockdown game… however nothing much in between. The thing is poison vs akuma is a life lead match up similar to bison and vega. Who ever has the life lead wins as the other can other the other out. However when just zoning at neutral Akuma wins. Why? Poison is not truly a zoning character its a big illusion. If she was, she actually sucks as one because her fireball speeds cannot not vary from a far while she has to predict our speeds.
You can zone her from a far and as you do you will gain more chip and hit damage due to the red fireball, thus she must approach with lousy approach options from LMT, poor walk speed, and a sub par fireball. During the zoning war when she throws a light fireball or ex fireball it’s ok to go in with a demon flip palm to punish her. Mix it up with demon flip throw of course because some of her DPs are throwable and she can’t DP out of demon flip throw set ups.
She only excels in the mid range. Do not fight her at the mid range, Akuma will not win. Her HP AE is +7 block she can destroy and eliminate any button and that range and due to it’s recovery you literally cannot respond to the HP AE in human reaction time. Not a joke. If it came out and you saw it, it’s already too late to punish it as Akuma. During her Low forward string HP AE string, you cannot back dash, walk back, focus back dash without a punish on reaction. [If the poison is ready for it] You must take the mix up or teleport… trust me you want to give up the space.
Just teleport out the risk is too huge. On knockdown, Poison is pretty free. she has a poor DP against Demon flips so she is forced to back dash. You can option select a demon flip kick on a jump in case of back flip and then do an option select sweep to catch her sweep and that basically eliminates her entire option of escape. She could try to focus back dash but that is punishable on reaction via sweep.
The only way she wins is if she hits you and carries you to the corner. Get good at not getting hit for this match it’s fairly easy because of her poor mobility options. Honestly it’s really the only character in the game that hard counters poison at the moment.
Thank you Tokido for confirming she is free in the knockdown game, I said it before.
Tokido? O.o
Japanese player who uses Akuma from time to time.
You can really go full scumbag on poisons fireballs strings too with U2, like Sol mentioned in either this thread or another.
Lol no, I was wondering when he confirmed that she was free on knockdown.
Yep. Noticed that after the punish from Smug the first time. Pretty crazy. Haven’t seen that before.
Notice the distance too. He places the sweep right at the tip.
Even at the tip dudley can reversal punish with u1. Lol better make sure it hits
I don’t think anybody with a functioning brain is sweeping Dudley while he has Ultra stocked. It’s the equivalent of jumping at a loaded Sagat or Ryu.
indeed, I’m sticking with far.MK, cr.MK and far.HP in this matchup.
Yep I definitely noticed that too.
Tokido played a Japanese Dudley in his latest Topanga B fights. But I haven’t seen it surface on YouTube yet.
This is why I hate Poison and Elena being in USFIV. Their hitboxes are straight garbage.
For Vega, something I kinda did on accident
Starting at about 0:45, I land a forward throw, walk forward and land cross up tatsu and sweep at just the tip. After a very brief pause I hk.Demon Flip kick and it lands as a cross up. Not sure if this helps anyone / already was known. I went into the lab and as far as landing a sweep at the “tip” this setup is pretty lenient. Pretty much any far landing sweep into hk.Demon Flip Kick will have this land as a cross up. Only thing I haven’t tested is his Reversal options and whether it makes his Scarlet Terror whiff or if we get blown up
I think it can cross up only if they crouch block. But I’ll give it a try, now that’s a pretty well described setup.
So again, this time on Yun starting at about 1:15. Not sure if it crossed up or only hit because he pressed throw. It looks like he either pressed throw RIGHT as I hit him or a millisecond after. Cant tell
Wish I could see Topanga B League. Tokido is bopping everyone ever since losing to nemo and nishikin.
In somewhat related news Pepeday feels Fuerte beats Akuma now. Bopped Four Wude pretty badly at TFC from what I heard.
Any decapre setups/advice? Can’t find anything that works off a knockdown, her psycho sting seems to beat everything. All I can do is try to bait it.
does anyone else have intense problems against Ken. since usf4 is really hard to win. his jumping ex tatsu mix up is pain in my a**. I am able to block it but afterwards the mixup is ridiculous. does it have frame advantage on block?