**Updated 5/17** ONE thread about performing and application of the RSF/Punch Loop


ive been practicing rsf and right now i can only 4 at max, quick question, does the qcf motion after fierce have a major role with the RSF loop? or its ok as long as its a cancel?

As long as it’s a cancel it’s perfect.
The hard part is timing LP ~ HP. The window between this should be 3 frames and the HP should hit as late as possible.

ahh thanks~

off to practice :slight_smile:

i think im getting the rhytm ^^ i can pretty much do it 3 times with 90% accuracy, i know it’s still not good, ill practice more ^^

EDIT

OMG after getting the rhytm, RSF loop became easier >< i did 7 fierces earlier that’s in training though ><

I used to have that problem too. I do that sometimes on P1 side still. I had to change how I did it mentally. I treat the the whole input as a half circle forward + jab. I replace the back input with fierce so I hit fierce while I’m standing. So it’s like… fierce,db,d,df,f + jab … It doesn’t matter if you hit back + fierce at the same time either.

Hopefully it helps.

not sure if this has been talked about before, but is the RSF much easier on some characters? i know on bigger chars it is, but for some reason it seems vega is a lot easier to RSF. i can get 4-5 consistently on shoto, but with vega it seems like you can do so many so easily.

thoughts?

Hard trial 5

Yea I can’t seem to get the third fierce in. I’ve gotten close actually getting the third one blocked. Using a 360 pad, anyone have a helpful tip for me? I just did gen’s 5th not to long ago and if I do fuerte’s 5th then I only have viper’s 5th untill 1000/1000 :wgrin:

There is something weird going on with different hitstun animations which require different timing, especially true with Ryu. On Ryu I have learnt to adjust my timing on reaction to his hitstun animation. Rufus requires different timing after a cross-up HP… RSF is hell!
Different hitstun animations also come with a different hitbox. I think RSF is easiest to do on El Fuerte because he completely arches his back backwards after getting hit by a heavy attack, which makes his hitbox huge.

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yeah i thought so. i find it easiest on vega, but that’s just me. ryu is one of the most annoying.

i dont know if its true but for me i get feeling that the critical part is hitting the 2nd fierce because the timing is different depending on the hitstun animation and hitbox, after that there’s this constant timing…

dunno maybe its just me, haha i find RSF’s timing animation/hitbox specific? cause lately ive been doing 8 fierces with ryu but only 6 with gief

Yes, I think the timing after the 2nd looped HP is constant and the same for all chars. But the amount of loops you can do should depend on the char’s hitbox. Ryu might very well have rougly the same hitbox as Zangief during RSF.

i see thanks brainz, maybe im just used too ryu’s hitstun animation lol.

So I’ve been practicing the RSF for about 2 days now and can manage to pull off 2 hits. But what I’ve been wondering as I’m browsing this thread, is how do you guys start it off? Do you start s.FP -> QCF+P -> LP-FP repeat, or QCF+P -> LP-FP repeat? Because I’ve been doing it the latter way and can’t seem to get past that 2nd hit. Could this be because my timing is a little different because I start with the QCF+P motion instead of a c.FP?

Many people suggest starting with the QCF, just to learn the motions. But in practice mode you should just start off with the fierce punch and learn the timing from there. After you learn that, then see if you can manage to do it starting from the run (something you’ll have to do in higher level play).

Reason being, starting up as close as possible guarantees that your distance is constant, and this way you can practice your timing of the 2nd and 3rd hits. If you start with the QCF, then you may be at a different distance when you stop the run and start the fierce.

Practicing is all about consistency, so make sure to eliminate anything that could mess up those inconsistencies. Just start with the fierce punch.

I can recommend this to anyone who is having trouble with a different method.

Lately I’ve been hitting 10xFierce in training mode (on Ryu) several times!
Online I try to do 4-6 fierces and every day I am getting more consistent at it.

So that is 5 months of practise and counting…

Hi,
i can easily do the first 2 Hp (on Honda) and also 2 the 2 first then the cr.hk.
But when i start the 3rd, elf is to far and the animation of the hp is different. Can we explain me what i do wrong please ?!
I’m getting close but now i’m blocked :frowning:

i have a quick math question if anyone wants to try and figure if out.

whenever i dizzy someone, i usually skip the level 3 focus (cause i figure the scaling it adds puts me at a disadvantage) and go straight into the RSF loop, usually doing 4 into slide.

my question is, is it wise to skip the level 3 focus when they’re already dizzy? should i throw it in there anyway? what nets more damage after a stun?

I’ve used mp run since day 1 and I’m getting 12+ now more consistantly. I can’t imagine using lp twice in this combo, I find seperating each button to a different function helps an awful lot.

12 fierces is pretty sick. You should throw that up on youtube.
I knew 11 should be possible, but 10 is still my record.