Lack of Hawkeye disturbs me, he seems like a very good anchor to me, even without meter he can do tons of chip and full screen combos in lvl 3 XF. He can basically lock you down with a plethora of arrows and pressure with Trick move shots and so on. And with Gimlet, you’re basically done.
Why are people so dismissive of Magneto? Magneto > Wesker, Ammy and most of these other 4-5 spot anchors.
While I feel that Magneto is a great anchor just due to the fact that he has EMD attached to him ( Although teleport+assist shenanigans work a bit less effectively in tournament setting, its still an excellent all around, and probably the best beam assist in general ), I just can’t really see him being on anchor spot. On paper yes, he looks GODLIKE, combos for free on throws, has that silly OH from his fierce, conversions from SJ height, corner carrys, invincible startup super, level 3s and definitely one of the fastest and scary characters to be against.
Long story short, I feel like every attempt Magneto makes at opening you up, he opens himself up another notch. I feel this is a pretty common problem, many of the air-dash approach type of anchors usually don’t get picked as strong anchors. Maybe its because of their air dash mechanic but who knows, could be a million reasons.
I duno, I just feel Magneto gets blown up very frequently when he tries to go in but I had similar feelings about Doom for awhile. I mean we don’t really see any Magneto specialists really put him on anchor except for Yipes, who made a very convincing case for anchor Mags. Time will tell i’m sure.
Best anchors are characters that can kill you far away, or you and a assist from full screen, can chip you to death or run away.
When you put all those together there are only a few that can do all of those.
Im not taking into account skill or difficulty to play, assuming that all user are on the same skill level and you have xfactor available
phoenix/dark phoenix
Dorm
morrigan
Storm
Ammy
strider
vergil
Wesker
Doom
Deadpool (yes believe it or not)
felica
magneto
Based of Xfactor alone
Hawkeye
Sentinel
Skrull
Aruther
Doc strange
X-factor and hold back is all the opponent needs to do to counter. I played anchor Hawkeye when Ultimate dropped and while it got me a bunch of wins against people who like to press buttons, anyone with half a brain will just pop their own x-factor and block until your X-factor runs out. Sure after that, Hawkeye can still do lots of chip but that becomes a much less viable strategy when running it back against a full team.
AlSo I hAtE iT wHeN pEoPlE tYpE lIkE tHiS
stop it.
skrull 2nd only to dark phoenix
seriously…
I see your point it has happened to me a couple of times , if the enemy has used the x-factor it is no problem, the thing that i do when the enemy still has x-factor is to bait them to attack, shoot some arrows then i do a slide canceled in trick shot so it becomes safe, a lot of people want to punish that and start to attack, the other problem is that even then you can kill only 2 characters, making the comeback factor not as good as stryder or vergil.
what do you think of Taskmaster as an anchor?
1 - Dark Phoenix
2 - Wesker
3 - Wesker
4 - Virgil
5 - Strider
I’d have put Wesker in all 5 place since WESKER IS ONMIPOTENT IN MARVEL.
In theory, I think Hsien-Ko XF3 with meter could be a really good anchor. Though I’ve played a few high ranked Hsien-Ko users, I haven’t personally used her much but I do know first hand that in her armour hyper, and with the boost in mobility she gets from XF3, you SHOULD STAY AWAY from her. She is really under-explored, and I need to try it out, but I think cinematic’s, command throws and counters could be the only things that could stop her. The you’re only safe attacking her in this mode from afar, and to be honest, I hope she is good because it’ll be good to have a strong answer to the flowchart top-tier characters in the game, and even more so from a character such as her.
However without X-factor and meter, she goes back to being Hsien-Ko.
Arthur Xfactor is a gimmick that doesn’t even pay off if your opponent isn’t a vegetable.
Upback?
Plus, I’d rather not rely on an install super that doesn’t last too long, especially when the meter WILL run out and you’ll be stuck with the second-worst character in the game. Under explored as anchor? Perhaps, but for a good reason.
Yeah, but I’m optimistic lol. Haggar’s now a brillinat point character, a Haggar team won the runback a couple of weeks back. And people were saying Morrigan was done for the night until Chris G picked her up. We write characters off too quickly, but then it’s to our own detriment. M.O.D.O.K is both incarnations of the game, yet people are saying it was ‘match-up unfamiliarity’ that made him finish in the Top 8 at this years Evo (Frutsy also used Cap ¬_¬ ).
Besides, if people did upback as often as they should, characters like Vergil and Wesker wouldn’t be as dominant as they are now lol. But with a command grab and dashes which are like bootleg teleports (that she can cancel) which could lead into mix-ups I think there could be a bit more too her. And I would aim to stock up as much meter as possible for her. But then again, I have had to use ‘hope’, ‘maybe’ and ‘optimism’ a lot while discussing her, so I guess it’s still a maybe that she could* possibly* be good lol.
Not necessarily true. People have looked into these characters. Saying vague stuff like, “X character is underexplored, no one uses him/her, etc.” is unfair to those who HAVE done work with characters like PW and Shuma and have concluded that they are just plain ass. People in the know, who actually pay attention to the game, have known that Morrigan had the tools to not be trash, or that MODOK can do some nasty stuff. No one really gave Haggar a chance until it turned out that you CAN cancel his OTG, contrary to what the official change list said. There are people who have given Hsien-Ko a chance. They know what they’re talking about when they say that she sucks. It’s better to pick an anchor you can have more consistent success with.
And upback stops Vergil and Wesker? Um… Wesker can reliably combo off of an air throw in response to upback, unlike Lei-Lei. And LOL, upback stops Vergil? Not upbacking has nothing to do with how dominant he is right now.
No one can stop Vergil.
Vergil can do anything.
Word on the street is that Vergil is invincible as well, but you didn’t hear it from me; so try to keep it on the down low.
No order
Skrull
Vergil
Sentinel
Magneto
Akuma
Strider
Conditional
Arthur
Dorm
What?
Lol the upback bit was a joke haha
I’m not trying to undermine the time and effort people have put in with other characters. When I said Hsien-Ko was under-explored, I meant in terms of using popularity as a unit of measure. There’s been many times that a person may have discovered something individually (i.e. the preson who made SRK front page when he discovered Chris’ flamethrower becoming special-cancelleable after a patch). But at the same time, I don’t think it has to be up to individual people to discover things. There’s so many points which are being brought up here, which I’d love to discuss, but I just feel that as there have been a load of times that obscure characters have been written off only to made good,k so I’ll still hope to see if it could still happen.
Despite his weaknesses he he has a level 1 get out of welcome mixup. Armored normals. Air mobility. He has a hard drive loop hyper sent force/jazz hands can be used well. He has brain dead easy combo for death in xfactor much easier in tough spots then say Strider.
He has consistently shown that he can comeback. He’s a far better anchor than many other characters in this game.
Hard drive is really the best thing he has going for him in that position IMO. Let’s face it, he’s not a good anchor and doesn’t deserve to be on a “top anchors list”.
I thought we’ve gone over this type of thing before, but easy combos do not equate a good character.
He’s a walking hitbox, he has crappy health for someone of his size, he’s unsafe as hell, etc etc.
Sure, he’s better then a few other members of the cast on anchor. But does he deserve to be on a top anchors list alongside Skrull, Vergil, Magneto, Akuma, Strider?
No.