No way dude. The trap is gimmicky, but her other options are NOT. I played a godlike Morrigan the other day. I’ve never felt so helpless. It’s not even matchup inexperience either. She is oppressive and versatile.
She’s ridiculously safe, traverses the screen quickly, and has a more than fair high low game. I’d say that makes her pretty damn good, although she is still lacking in damage output, she really only pushes “average” damage off clean hits. Solid meter build though, she really can function as a battery if you’re not dumping it all into AV activations.
by morrigan, i mean the trap seeing thats how chris g won most of his matches although his morrigan is improving more each day.
i know her up close game is potent, almost impossible to block, but i feel like you can lame her out. (then she activates astral vision and out lames you)
I can’t say for sure whether it’s simply a personal match up, or a character match up, but I feel like she has a lot of issues with Chris. You can rain diagonal soul fists on him all day, but that’s about it. Incendiaries, mines, and magnum shut everything else down, at least for me.
Non Astral Vision keepaway is amazing with assist anyways.
Fireball + Flight is retarded. It makes her incredibly versatile and mobile at the same time.
I’m going to be honest here and say it’s a personal thing. What you said was true, but Chris shouldn’t be able to touch Morrigan honestly.
Chris blows up her assist calls pretty bad with Magnum because it is so godlike. (seriously Magnum sj Magnum and Doom is on life support) He also should have Jam Session (preferred) or Vajra to help keep her air game in check. She also cant do much about landmine and incendiaries since her approach is somewhat one dimensional. Oh and prone shot is really dumb.
Eh? Doom missiles is a true blockstring in most circumstances correct? I heard that after the first shot, cold star is a true blockstring too? The power of Sent drones is because it’s not a true blockstring?
I can’t believe Morrigan still isn’t top tier on this list. I understand her weaknesses but come on! Characters literally HAVE to have ways of dealing with her to be considered top in the metagame, trying to convert off one random hit just isn’t good enough in the grand scheme of things when most of the time she makes it impossible for you to get close to her. There’s only a handful of characters who can truely deal with her traps assistless and those few bad matchups are not enough to say she doesn’t deserve a top spot, because she makes most characters time in this game a living hell. Morrigan has won more tournaments than everyone’s favourite theory fighter Zero and her execution requirements are equally as strict as his are, how doesn’t that deserve a top spot?
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Morrigan is currently in the “High Tier” section which I think is pretty fair, so if you (Duck Strong) think she’s overrated, I’d love to hear why? (And don’t say that you can super jump to avoid AV, please. We all know that and while it is a method of dealing with AV should not be the reason why Morrigan is overrated). If anything, we’ve yet to see soul drain combos (more than one soul drain) used in competitions. Morrigan can also rush down too, we just don’t see it that often. She is pretty much associated with the trap when she is capable of more than that. Problem is, with Doom the trap is all she needs to destroy most teams, no need to deal with other people’s mix ups if they cannot get past the “trap” or get close to her.
Chris G has won many tournaments or finished runner up with Morrigan in his team. Granted, Chris G is a top player but he is using Morrigan’s tools/theory to get the job done, to win matches and be consistent in tournaments. How exactly is she overrated?
That would be the big thing that drones does different/better than the other two.
They are all extended lockdown/combo breaking assists.
Cold star is the fastest with the longest lockdown time.
Drones are slow, but not a true blockstring, and have more range to cover stuff like teleports.
Missiles hit verticle and combo break the best, but are the worst lockdown of the, and are very slow.
There’s no conversation here. Everyone’s already made up their mind.
Being able to make basically any special move safe from punishment by yourself is overrated.
Having an incredibly invulnerable LVL 1 is overrated.
Having the ability to build massive amounts of bar while crippling the opponents resources is overrated.
Being able to output significant damage while draining meter is overrated.
Having an assist that heavily impacts the value of one of the primary resources in the game is overrated.
Having some of the fastest aerial movement is overrated.
Having an air active invulnerable super is overrated.
Being able to perform combos that guarantee a kill on a 5 bar phoenix is overrated.
Having a 1f command grab that option selects to a flight for safety is overrated.
Being able to control large portions of the screen with install supers is overrated.
Being able to chip someone to the point that the install super can pay for itself is overrated.
Shutting down 90% of the cast’s neutral with your oppressive BS is overrated.
Safe, hard to defend pressure is overrated.
Being able to convert your CC into reasonable damage, yep, overrated.
I agree.
The sarcasm is strong with this one.
:eek: So I haven’t been able to read everything, but can we conclude that this weekend was not a good look for:
Didn’t mean to pick those three specifically, but they’re the first to come to mind with regards to characters that didn’t make a showing or got mollywopped.
Every character is great if you only list their strengths.
Best players aren’t picking the best characters. In addition how wasn’t it a good showing? Killerkai and Richard both did very well. Justin picked his IF team for god’s sake and was saving his shit for EVO.
Also half of Norcal didn’t show up so there goes most of the reps for those characters.
You could make even Hsienko sound good if you only listed her positives.
Just sayin’
And every character is bad if you only post “X is overrated”.
My point is that people run around making absolute statements about character strengths without providing any reasoning whatsoever.
Edit: And if you couldn’t tell, it doesn’t lead to discussions that achieve anything. One person says X is good, one says X is overrated. No one really discusses why. I guess it’s the circle of the tier thread, but I get really tired of seeing these abject statements without any supporting arguments. Yet when you provide any arguments to the contrary of the abject statements, people come in and say “yeah of course they look great, all you did was talk about their strengths.” as if someone should talk about weaknesses when refuting a statement like “X is overrated”.
Let’s try that:
-Gold Armor assist is pretty good once you spend two bars to activate it and safely DHC in another character.
-Some decent normals
That’s it.
