UMVC3 SRK Tier List/Theory Discussion. (NEW THREAD NOW AVAILABLE)

Firebranded · 2012-01-12T04:42:48.000Z

I aint saying it’s bad but fuck, St. M is so good for so many different situations and it’s better for combos seeing how it doesn’t hurt HSD and damage as much.

This St.M also allows him to get good damage off a cornered human rocket.

DevilJin_01 · 2012-01-12T04:46:46.000Z

Nearly 40,000 views for the thread in about 5 days. People like their tear lists.

Demon_Dash · 2012-01-12T04:47:16.000Z

Lookin back now I lol at how Wolverine’s dive kick was an overhead and could cancel it into drill claw. Can’t remember what other differences there were in the Evo build but it’s pretty hilarious to think back on. I wish I spent more time with him when I was playing the comic con build never touched him once.

Nini_Heart · 2012-01-12T04:49:18.000Z

This reminds me. I’m gonna do a run thruogh of all of the lists and add them up. Although I won’t do a recount until after the next major. Whenever that is. I’ll just ask people to re-edit their lists when that time comes.

When is the next popular major any way?

There’s a canadian major this week. Nemesis. But canada doesn’t matter anyways

DevilJin_01 · 2012-01-12T04:50:49.000Z

There’s a canadian major this week. Nemesis. But canada doesn’t matter anyways

That’s just a local to the US. If Viper wins there it doesn’t count.

KJunk · 2012-01-12T04:55:13.000Z

The last time we sent someone up to stream a Canadian major to give you guys exposure, homeland security jacked Spooky’s shit.

So then you guys tried streaming on your own with Canada Cup and we saw how well that went ($8.95).

Where are the regular Canadian weekly streams at? Also I subscribe to RDK’s youtube channel so I’m one of the good guys here.

Nini_Heart · 2012-01-12T04:55:28.000Z

That’s just a local to the US. If Viper wins there it doesn’t count.

inb4 Dieminion wins and people say it doesn’t count lol

crimsonspider89 · 2012-01-12T05:00:31.000Z

If Dieminion wins, that would be the most epic thing ever.

DevilJin_01 · 2012-01-12T05:03:29.000Z

I think it’s pretty amazing how Die wins with his team considering it’s pretty much devoid of tournament winning assists. I still stand by Morrgan harmonizer being a top tier assist if you get to call her enough times (she has shortest active and recovery time of all the assists) but there’s the issue of course of having to give up a combo extension or neutral control assist.

NissanZaxima · 2012-01-12T05:04:49.000Z

Dieminion is a great player… but watching him now makes me want to take a nap.

DevilJin_01 · 2012-01-12T05:05:37.000Z

LOL I love watching that shit cuz I’m like “I wonder how many bars Joe is gonna build with Morrigan assist before he gets hit”. Cuz if he gets up to 4 bars Strange can just DHC Vishanti people all day.

Nini_Heart · 2012-01-12T05:05:53.000Z

If Dieminion wins, that would be the most epic thing ever.

If he wins, it would also mean I didn’t play him. Not gonna put up with that Joe BS

Chrisis · 2012-01-12T05:08:31.000Z

Eye of agamatto is his neutral game assist, he uses it to dissuade people from moving forward then chucks more voomerangs. I have Morrigan in S-tier of support for a reason. ^.^

DevilJin_01 · 2012-01-12T05:09:14.000Z

I dunno I feel like I could fight that shit. Joe can spam but he doesn’t really have any other neutral assist backing other than slow start up Vishanti. There’s definitely going to be a gap at some point. The main issue is just him building a ton of meter with Morrigan by the time you do get in and then you got a whole nother problem.

I feel the Morrigan anchor is probably the biggest problem because not only can she spam shit but in XF she’ll do big damage also if those fireballs hit.

Eye of agamatto is his neutral game assist, he uses it to dissuade people from moving forward then chucks more voomerangs. I have Morrigan in S-tier of support for a reason. ^.^

Eye assist is ok but the long start up seems to not be awesome for someone who’s trying to buy time in the neutral. It can absorb some hits of a beam assist but I think Joe would be better off overall in the long run with something that’s actually hitting people.

The combination of Morrigan+Eye assist is solid though. I just don’t like eye much on its own. All of his assists in general just have this slow start up and recovery that tend to get blown up by rushdown guesses. It’s a good secondary assist but not like the main one you want to rely on or nothing.

crimsonspider89 · 2012-01-12T05:09:18.000Z

LOL. But just imagine the salt that would come in.

NissanZaxima · 2012-01-12T05:11:49.000Z

LOL I love watching that shit cuz I’m like “I wonder how many bars Joe is gonna build with Morrigan assist before he gets hit”. Cuz if he gets up to 4 bars Strange can just DHC Vishanti people all day.

I just want him to upgrade his Strange from ABCS-BBCS Vishanti stuff. Watching his Strange is like watching grass grow.

charlie88 · 2012-01-12T05:14:41.000Z

Tier list

In regards to shehulk i wouldnt say she is all bad as far as assist and dhc’s. She can still do unblockable setups with her slide assist which is always useful imo and its one of the few that hit low. Her dhc ability is decent imo because of her anti-air hyper. It has invincibility frames which could get you out of some situations and if play it right you can create a nasty setup like a player on SMOA’s stream that uses thors mighty punish hyper and then dhc into shulks if they jump. That in itself leads to a free combo that if it doesnt kill can put them in a position for a reset and allows you to build back the meter spent while also getting the oppenent in the corner. Shulk I think is still effective on certain teams. For instance i was using a team of shulk/trish/akuma that would make use of her anti hyper and trish’s peekaboo assist and it would literally force you to EAT that anti air into a corner reset that you would repeat until you killed the oppenents charecter. That team also took advantage of trish’s round harvest by having shulk provide unblockables to akuma and by also allowing her anti air hyper to punish anyone tryna jump away from round harvest.

DevilJin_01 · 2012-01-12T05:16:12.000Z

I just want him to upgrade his Strange from ABCS-BBCS Vishanti stuff. Watching his Strange is like watching grass grow.

It wouldn’t really matter if he upgraded his combos because his Strange has no assists. His Strange will eventually get figured out without any neutral control assist and he’ll have to fall back on Morrigan anchor a lot. There’s not much Strange can set up safely without neutral control assist and his teleports really up in scare factor with an assist for sudden left/rights as he’s trying to gather space.

His best case scenario is Joe kills a character or safe DHC’s and then he can throw voomerang assist. Unfortunately it does shit hit/block stun and isn’t really that scary of an assist overall any way. If Joe dies then he’s basically relying on super hurp durp until Morrigan comes out.

ironboy89 · 2012-01-12T05:17:33.000Z

Skrull is a good character, it’s just that people consider Skrull as Online SfIV Ken . People honestly call Skrull random mostly because his stuff is hard to predict.

His teleport punch is one of the most ambiguous cross up in the game. It’s practically become character specfic cross up because of their size made change rather or not they will be crossup by Skrull. It’s also Character specific because you can be crossed up by moving across the screen slightly. Skrull is still on the screen, like Racoon’s H burrowing hence the ambiguous crossup. It’s also means he can get people afraid of running away because Skrull can force people at the top of screen to guess between a left or right mixup.

[URL=‘http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EovhDKg2M3k#t=2m050s’]Hell even his level 3 is similar to this. The game crossed up Rayray just when Skrull was coming down. You basically must put in your brain where the invisible Skrull is.

Chrisis · 2012-01-12T05:21:36.000Z

In regards to shehulk i wouldnt say she is all bad as far as assist and dhc’s. She can still do unblockable setups with her slide assist which is always useful imo and its one of the few that hit low. Her dhc ability is decent imo because of her anti-air hyper. It has invincibility frames which could get you out of some situations and if play it right you can create a nasty setup like a player on SMOA’s stream that uses thors mighty punish hyper and then dhc into shulks if they jump. That in itself leads to a free combo that if it doesnt kill can put them in a position for a reset and allows you to build back the meter spent while also getting the oppenent in the corner. Shulk I think is still effective on certain teams. For instance i was using a team of shulk/trish/akuma that would make use of her anti hyper and trish’s peekaboo assist and it would literally force you to EAT that anti air into a corner reset that you would repeat until you killed the oppenents charecter. That team also took advantage of trish’s round harvest by having shulk provide unblockables to akuma and by also allowing her anti air hyper to punish anyone tryna jump away from round harvest.

Her anti air hyper is subpar for more purposes especially with the number of characters that can be in the air and escape it. Her Torpedo assist is like a worse form of Ankle slicer where She-Hulk is vulnerable for as long as possible before hand. >.< I think for everything she has to offer Which to be fair are a few things everyone else has more to offer.

Also for the previous set up reversal supers make it absolutely fine unfortunately.