UMVC3 OTT I am here in the shadows

Momochuu · September 8, 2012, 8:10pm

You know you don’t have to talk about Persona if you don’t want to, right? You can talk about whatever you want. I never really understood that.

Anyway, I’m getting bodied hardcore by Liz and I need some help. I’m going to record some stuff I hate this character.

_Insert_Name_Here · September 8, 2012, 8:23pm

I think people are usually joking when they “complain” about P4A being one of the most common topics in the OTT recently.

Theautophobia · September 8, 2012, 8:25pm

shes not that hard to fight,
if you have 1 combo that does 3000 and one that does 4 thousand. do that, a lot of her stuff is pretty unsafe, avoid her awakening state
watch her hands if you need to see what attack she’s doing.
her ice attack is air unblockable but slow as hell.
do not leave her idle her sp goes up constantly.
you can punsh B.
her persona is vulnerable during EVERY attack and only one has armor.
as mitsuru if you see them using jB, try anti-airing?
you outrange her, No answer to pressure. Her dp doesn’t even actually do damage and is a 1 frame link to follow up in corner.

I don’t have to talk about it but there isn’t much else going on here ever. and on that off chance i find something random to say, it will be washed over by that one p4 comment.

DayUn · September 8, 2012, 8:27pm

How is everyone this morning? Barnes and Noble wifi ftw.

Mr.X · September 8, 2012, 8:28pm

They don’t want to talk anyway.

I’m digging these songs

http://rapgenius.com/Kanye-west-clique-lyrics for my ig’nit shit

MilesRiey · September 8, 2012, 8:30pm

Oh yeah, I finally got to learn Jojo a lot more! Only one problem… why the FUCK are half of Rubber Soul’s normals unsafe on hit? What the hell man >__>… he’s still pretty fun to play imo though, currently I’m playing him, Jotaro, Iggi and Young Joseph.

Here I am hoping Jojo’s online is not as bad as some people have said to be >__>…

I don’t know about his s.L… and Vergil hasn’t been done yet unless you count that one with someone playing Iron Man vs a Vergil (the one showing what the Iron Man should be doing while the derp Vergil player is just thinking of s.H).

Momochuu · September 8, 2012, 8:32pm

I need to study that character or something. It’s just a personal bad matchup. Too much shit going on. Can you not hit her Persona out of that grab?

FlyingVe · September 8, 2012, 8:32pm

They still make books?

ThatJollyOlBastid · September 8, 2012, 8:32pm

I need to buy MSP to buy JoJos…or not and learn MVC2/get better at 5A.
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I used to like putting this song on repeat along with rainy mood for when i’d go to sleep. It’s relaxing.

FlyingVe · September 8, 2012, 8:33pm

Not the EX version I believe, but the regular version is easy to stop. It has a big tell, you can 5A or jump on reaction. It just catches you by surprise alot of times.

Also, keep in mind her personal is pretty much always vulnerable everytime she uses it, so hit dat A button and take away a stock.

You should check out or the DL matchup sections too.

DayUn · September 8, 2012, 8:38pm

From my expert analysis, yes. I did have to use my patented book-ometer to find them, however. Yes I am tired. Don’t facepalm too hard.

Momochuu · September 8, 2012, 8:40pm

I think another problem of mine in this game and fighting games in general is that I think way too much. Sometimes I just need to go nuts. Everything I do is methodical and planned, and can make me predictable. I don’t think I’ll ever overcome it but what can ya do.

DayUn · September 8, 2012, 8:40pm

Most characters in this game, like Guilty Gear, have some really scummy things they can do to you if you aren’t watching, or aren’t aware of what punishes/counters are available to you. Just grind away the matchup until you are impervious to such gimmicks. You are a Mitsuru main, just act like you’re above the common filth of most players and demoralize them with your cold superiority.

Theautophobia · September 8, 2012, 8:44pm

there is no ex version of a grab for her. just ground and air version and property change with fear.
The recovery of the throw is the punishment period, and its generous, and if you hit the persona, you have enough time to break and then choose your combo.
fear version cause wall bounce but thats about it, and when feared can be comboed into.

the persona rsh she does is very vulnerable, but if used correctly difficult to escape.
hitting that A button can actually get you caught in a combo, last i played i found sacrificing a stock to make the person attack the persona instead of worrying about my s.B gets you caught in a combo.

FlyingVe · September 8, 2012, 8:45pm

I;m bored too, I had to go into work today… bleh…

Since I’m bored… You should get an avi.

Leon63 · September 8, 2012, 8:46pm

This would be more accurate, even without Mitsuru:

http://i.imgur.com/lUdsM.jpg

It even has Jolly as the Shota, and me as Shinjiro.

FlyingVe · September 8, 2012, 8:47pm

I;m bored too, I had to go into work today… bleh…

Since I’m bored… You should get an avi.

DayUn · September 8, 2012, 8:51pm

I think I have an idea for one. I’ll have one by the end of the night. Deal?

THEQUEENOFLOVEHD · September 8, 2012, 8:55pm

Here, I made a video of the OTT’s reaction.

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Mr.X · September 8, 2012, 8:55pm

Sprinkle a little crazy and random into your game. Color outside the lines.

Let’s consider the typical evolution of one’s tactics from scrub to intermediate to advanced player. When people first start playing Street Fighter, they have a tendency to uppercut every time they are knocked down (actually, before that, most people probably don’t do anything on wake up, including block, before getting perfected a few times and realizing they had better do SOMETHING at least). A new player knows that the uppercut (or EX Messiah or Ultra or whatever) is going to beat basically anything the opposing player does to try to continue his offense, and, feeling vulnerable on wake up, their first instinct is to mash DP. The problem is, if this n00b (I’m not even talking about scrubs here - I’m talking about people who can barely execute special moves) is playing a superior opponent, the veteran will probably see almost immediately that the n00b is garbage at SF and therefore bait out those uppercuts and punish severely.

Once the new player gets tired of being destroyed due to mashing predictable DPs, the next step in his growth is to radically reduce the frequency of these tactics in response. This change is undoubtedly fueled in part by the countless posts on SRK and other forums proclaiming how terrible and scrubby the tactic of mashing DP is. All over the boards, people talk about random DPs and Ultras as though you might as well not play the game if you’re going to resort to such an obviously idiotic strategy. I have noticed in my years of playing SF4 that intermediate players - players who are solid and clearly have put in many hours of game play and studied the game pretty hard but whom I nevertheless beat much more often than not - typically do not mash DP or “randomly Ultra” on wake up nearly as often as either beginners or, more importantly, high level players. If Street Fighter becomes a science at the intermediate level, it becomes an art at the highest levels. Perhaps you can predict where I’m going with this.

It is my theory that the strategy of “random DP” and randomness in general basically comes full circle and becomes extremely relevant again in high level play as top players “unlearn what they have learned.” I believe this is because many intermediate to intermediate-advanced players are stuck in the realm of theory fighting. They are stuck in their minds, hung-up on making “the right decision” at every point in the game, which to them is rarely to “randomly DP.” They think, “Oh heavens, surely my opponent is predicting exactly when I will scrubbily mash DP, and how embarrassing would it be to whiff and eat a punish, even though I have a massive life lead!” These players don’t play with enough intuition, with enough “feeling,” with enough creativity, unpredictability, and daring. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve played against a decent player who cowers in fear while I Demon Flip, crouching short, overhead, cross-up, “random DP,” etc. him to death for what feels like an eternity of game time when at just about ANY point he could have broken my momentum with a reversal. But because that player probably sees “random DPs” as a scrub tactic, because his fear of guessing wrong and being punished clouds his risk/reward judgment, he just sits there and does absolutely nothing while I mix him up until he’s stunned and it’s gg.