nitsuma buffed zero and wesker, which seems like a questionable design decision, sure…

but ono just removed rufus from cross tekken. his divekick is now minus enough on block that you can get stand jabbed by everyone on block.

be glad it’s official capcom’s moved on to the other projects and isn’t looking to patch umvc3

As far as the flying 8 way air dash characters go, if Iron Man is graduate school and Magneto is undergraduate, Nova has to be a GED. Dude is madddd derpy.

I can respect this analysis.

i know wesker still is top tier, but in general, wesker was nerfed in ultimate.

i can trade with sure this “glass buff” to the vanilla counter and vanilla combo-confirm-after-random-gunshot

Just a few side thoughts really…

Folks, we’ve got to do better.

I got into a minor “back and forth” with someone today regarding my claim that Wesker can do 1 million for 1 meter.

Now… according to the person I was debating with, I’m lying simply based off of the fact that “Wesker is overused, and if it were possible it would have been discovered by now.”

Well… that’s just a load of bullshit. In fact, it’s quite the opposite.

People who play Marvel typically tend to find something worthy of being called “broken” and just abuse it endlessly without ever experimenting further; be it with that particular character or others. Well… fuck that. That’s also why “the tragedy of Final Round XV” happened. Believe it or not, there are some of us who play characters because we like them in general. And because I actually LIKE Wesker, I didn’t get complacent with doing the typical shit everyone else does. In fact, I -refuse- to play any character I don’t like (And with the exception of Taskmaster [Long story pickup], Spencer [Mission Mode pickup], and Dormammu [Preview looked interesting before vanilla released], I liked all of my characters before I ever gave 2 fucks about Marvel).

So despite what may look like a brilliant effort to tier whore, I’m literally playing all the characters I actually -like- and havn’t even really changed my teams up since Vanilla (barring the addition of Strider and Vergil whom were not present). Instead of figuring out how to copy what everyone else was doing, I sat and figured out how to do things on my own. Because of that, yes I can potentially break 1 mil with 1 meter from anywhere with Wesker. The combo is also meter positive and not particularly difficult to do (in fact, it’s my clean-hit BnB), and I figured out the concept of it the first damn day Ultimate released. I actually think it’s pretty funny that it hasn’t been figured out yet (or rather, hasn’t been put out there yet), but it just lends to my point… people think something is already “broken” and get complacent.

It should not be immediately assumed that because a character is “overused” then that character has also actually been explored. Like I said, people who play Marvel tend to get complacent with what they’re doing real fast. Especially in the case of Wesker who is viewed by many people as “the best character in the game” (he’s personally not in my top 5 from a tiering standpoint). Don’t make the mistake of sitting there twiddling your thumbs waiting for everyone to figure things out for you or you’ll always be playing a game of catchup.

Even in Vanilla when I claimed Phoenix could get 1 million off of a throw without XF folks didn’t believe me for largely the same reason. Ask Clockw0rk about the combo I messaged to him a little while before Evo.

TL;DR
Don’t immediately assume that a character being used by everyone has been thoroughly explored. Also don’t assume that if the masses can’t do something yet then it means its impossible. Even if you do absorb other people’s tech, use it to come up with something that works best -for you.- Don’t just go combo thread squatting and wait to be spoon fed; and definitely don’t presume anyone possessing “unknown tech” is a liar just because it hasn’t been handed to you.

:coffee:

It’s happening.

10 minutes in onwards. $1k to start with.

Which is the worst Level 3 super in the game? And what I mean by that, worst as in the character has way better options with the available bars instead of even thinking of spending it on the level 3.

Either Tron or Nemesis. Tron because she can’t combo afterwards despite all the other level 3 grab supers allowing you to do so, and Nemesis because it has no invincibility frames.

Probably Nemesis, since you can at least actually land Tron’s super as a punish or something.

Nemesis’ is 15f vulnerable, when his regular L-Tentacle Slam is like 7f. It’s a POS.

nemesis lvl 3 is more useless than jill lvl 3 ? dunno…

Viper I guess? Not that its particularly terrible, just when you compare it to 3 EX Seismos…

Joker calls put Fanatiq to a 5k money match at Toryuken. Spread the word
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfAHgyApHOs

Deadpool’s level 3 is pretty bad. 3 bars is expensive for a counter.

but still is better than a lvl 3 that gives NO damage and buffs in a uncontrolable way like jill

Tron using 3 bars for a grab super to get 450,000 is just silly when she can use 3 bars for a Clakey D ender to kill practically anyone with ease. Or literally anyone with a bit more effort.

Shuma’s is pretty shit if I recall.

Iron Fist’s is invincible as fuck. And it’s only invincible as fuck because it’s slow as fuck (20 frames of startup and 10 frames active after that, with like 31 frames of invincibility total). And then you can’t combo after it [/salt]

This is so true its not even funny >_>.

Ultimate has been out for a good while now and I want to know, what is the verdict on the whole Dante vs. Vergil debate? Is Vergil still seen as a clone of Dante or are their movesets different enough to say that one is better than the other?

I’ll do you one worse, her Bonne Mixer-H itself is 1f and leads to 900k+ dmg. Still, at least it has invun, which is the only reason people aren’t just doing XFGC, H-Bonne Mixer instead. <_<

also I’m pretty sure DP lvl3 can actually be otg’d after for more dmg, so w/e still leagues better than nem’s.

Whats the tournament standard regarding auto super jump?