I know i’m late to the party and all… But Dude, @CorkyJay You were doing well with Jill during that set, you just had some very important drops that costed you the match multiple times. You were playing patiently and made some smart assist calls when vs MorriDoom. You were doing work dude, don’t get discouraged!
@Initial_R_ I’ll try my best man but sometimes when you run into things like that it really kills the joy 
ill keep trying to get some more footage up
Heres some Gameplay of me i should be able to get more of me up now. Make sure to give a shoutout to Zerms man he helps soo much with the recording and editing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FUwT3CLFxg
Any tips are helpful <3
I definitely enjoyed watching that. You should upload some more play. My opinion on your Jill? You seemed to be a lot more defensive with her this time around. It is especially noticeable with the wesker/ironman/vergil player in the beginning of the video. The last time I saw you play, you were a lot more aggressive with her. This could be just me, but you seem to rely a bit too much on Plasma beam to start your approach…
Your combos are pretty cool though and i’m definitely stea- I mean politely borrowing some of those combos for my Jill… And I also like the resets you have going for her. All-in-all I like your Jill and would like to see more of it. If you want, we might be able to play a little tonight since I kinda sorta have Live. Just let me know if your up for it.
Your doom is also bananas and I swear I saw a glitch at the 7:00 mark in your video where you somehow teleport behind wesker after your foot dive dash cancel…
sure we can play just message me l8ter today if u catch me online
I really enjoyed that vid, great Jill play. That doom is straight stupid though, lol. Makes me want to give another try to my Jill/Dok/Sent team. Thanks for the upload I definitely learned some things. GG’s!
PS: do you have any matches where you fight a good dorm, just wondering how you would deal with that.
umm not yet i gotta wait till Zerms wants to record me again ill try and see if he can get a dorm player
Gonna be honest here, not feeling the team too much with dorm being in the middle…
I can see why you’d think that, but dorm answers a lot of synergy problems. With Jill building meter, if she needs to escape or you see an assist call, you can start sniping with machine gun spray, then dhc chaotic flame for birthday damage. Also, pending jill reset options, she can kill with 1 meter, and you can dhc to stalking flare for incoming. Dorm also counters Vergil and Morrigan, and with Hawkeye assist he has the option for pressure or zoning.
It just depends on how you use him. Dorm is almost always a middle character because he’s great at controlling momentum and pace. He can maintain an early head start, or he can slow down your opponent.
You’ve thought this out fully, that’s great! lol. The reasonings are solid, but I can’t help but think Dorm is a bit out of place too. However, if you’re comfortable with Dorm being there, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise. Personally, I wanted to make Dorm work in the middle too, but I couldn’t get anything started with Dark Hole. It seemed like a great lockdown assist, and I was able to place it properly, It’s just that when people decide not to block it they get soft knockdown’ed, blowing up all of my mixups. But I agree, MGS -> Chaotic flame -> Stalking Flare is a great setup. I don’t think Jill builds enough meter for this to be consistent every time.
Your team is solid, just know it’s not exactly a “Jill team”. It’s close though.
In regards to DHCs and resets, with almost any team, except for Ammy and Ironman if their assists hit, you can kill off of a reset / DHC.
As an aside, I think that’s what we’re kind of getting lost in here sometimes. We’re trying to make “Jill teams” where everything is done with Jill. However, I feel that every team needs to have a back up plan. It needs to be rounded out in every way. For example, Jill / Raccoon / Ammy would be a really great shell because there’s synergy everywhere. If Jill dies RR / Ammy is a great shell.
Anyway, just something to think about before we start shooting down other potential teams. I think this is what Paulow was getting to waaaaay back in the threads somewhere.
That’s why I liked these teams for me. Jill/Dok/Doom or Ammy, And I also liked the Jill/Dorm/Shuma team, cause if Jill dies you have a good shell going for you. The damage of Angelics shell is ridiculous as well.
That’s the most difficult part of building a Jill team. Since Jill is very assist dependent for her neutral game you either need to make a team completely based around her, or make a team that supports Jill but has a strong shell in case things don’t go well. With the randomness of marvel and how quickly characters can die, having a strong backup shell is probably the safer idea.
A strong case for this is in corky’s team. I know that corky can play ironman well and it is generally considered here that iron man is one of Jill’s best partners. Yet he doesn’t use iron man second, he uses doom because doom + drones is stronger than IM + drones. (maybe I’m wrong on his reasoning, but that’s the way I look at it)
While I personally don’t see mrwhelan’s team of having dorm on a jill team as optimal, if that’s what works for him go for it. That’s the main advantage we have on this subforum is that so many of us play different characters/combinations we get to see a lot of unique synergies. For example I never would have guessed Jill had any synergy with Modok until Dunamis uploaded some videos.
On a side note, I wish I had a way to upload some matches of my gameplay
Agreed. That’s why i dont mind dorm with her. Her and hawkeye is already a great shell and if she’s down, dorm and hawkeye is very solid. I don’t worry too much about the dark hole assist. If it hits and you cant confirm in time, the soft knockdown is fine because it puts them in tech roll, which is where jill’s reset mix-up game is. You can combo extend with it too, but jill can combo well enough on her own where she doesnt need an extender. I use it for pressure when the opponent is expecting hawkeye assist.
Well guys thats how ANY solid team should work. When you are developing a team, you shouldn’t be thinking of a single character, you have to think of all the characters on the team, and how well they work together. Anybody building a team solely around one character is bound to fail in the long run.
I don’t necessarily agree with this. Some teams are front loaded by design and work very well. For example Nemo’s nova/spencer/strange team is a front loaded team, after nova is gone the power of the team goes down dramatically. Another example is KaneBlue’s Hulk/haggar/sent team. It is definitely a team oriented towards hulk and after hulk is gone a large amount of the teams potential is gone. None the less both of these players have a record of doing quite well. If the point character is strong enough with certain assists it can help make up for the lack of synergy the other characters have with each other.
That said obviously you should put thought into which characters you put on a team. I just don’t think Jill is the most suitable character for a front loaded style team. Jill just can’t dominate all match-ups and so it is too risky to think you can always win with just Jill; especially since Jill is a low health, reset based character.
Don’t wanna be the guy to piss in everyone’s soup.
but for organizational purposes, can we take all the team-building talk to the team-building thread? What you guys are saying is pretty agreeable and dope, so for others who are looking for team-building stuff they can just find it there instead!
I REALLY don’t want to be “that guy”, but it makes the forums way more organized and helps players looking to level up their Jill find stuff a bit easier 
Srew You NSR! You don’t control me! I’ll do what I want!
I agree that we should move this convo over to the team building section
YOU CAN’T CONTROL ME MOM,THIS IS WHO I AM.
I’LL DO WHAT I WANT!
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