ULTIMATE Balance/Tier talk thread

Alidfe · 2011-12-30T10:15:08.000Z

I sometimes wonder if she’d be any good if people learned to play her how she’s supposed to be played rather than relying on that one gimmick?

Hey Seth, how are you doing?

KJunk · 2011-12-30T10:20:14.000Z

The name “Magneto” should never be followed by the phrase “is ass”.

Maybe he meant “Magneto is in that ass”

Cougar · 2011-12-30T10:23:46.000Z

S: Zero, Wesker, Viper
A+: Dante, Dorm
A: Doom, Vergil, Trish, Hawkeye, Spencer, Wolverine, Strider, Felicia, Amaterasu, Akuma, Jill, Chris
B+: Nova, Phoenix, Taskmaster, Frank, M.O.D.O.K., Hulk, Magneto, Deadpool Firebrand,
B: Morrigan, Storm, Haggar, Ryu, Cap, Sentinel, X-23, , Nemesis, Strange, Arthur, Iron Fist, Skrull,
B-: Rocket Racoon, Chun-Li, Thor, Ghost Rider,VJ,
C: She-Hulk, Shuma, Hsien-Ko
D: Tron

This is just how i feel about tiers at this point. Hagger and arthur are both underrated. I’m not sure about magneto but i think he is ass and tron is easily the worst character in the game

While Magneto + ass = Does not compute, props for not sleeping on Arthur like… Well, everyone else to post in this thread.

iinara · 2011-12-30T10:24:00.000Z

S: Zero, Wesker, Viper
A+: Dante, Dorm
A: Doom, Vergil, Trish, Hawkeye, Spencer, Wolverine, Strider, Felicia, Amaterasu, Akuma, Jill, Chris
B+: Nova, Phoenix, Taskmaster, Frank, M.O.D.O.K., Hulk, Magneto, Deadpool Firebrand,
B: Morrigan, Storm, Haggar, Ryu, Cap, Sentinel, X-23, , Nemesis, Strange, Arthur, Iron Fist, Skrull,
B-: Rocket Racoon, Chun-Li, Thor, Ghost Rider,VJ,
C: She-Hulk, Shuma, Hsien-Ko
D: Tron

This is just how i feel about tiers at this point. Hagger and arthur are both underrated. I’m not sure about magneto but i think he is ass and tron is easily the worst character in the game

yay!
we’re moving up in the world

ihateM.O.D.O.K · 2011-12-30T10:25:02.000Z

I’m not sure about magneto but i think he is ass

I honestly can’t see how he can be “ass” given the tools he has. Less frightening than he was in Vanilla? Sure. Not a dominant force in the metagame? Possibly. But as long as his options are as well rounded and effective as they are while still putting out good damage and having good mobility, I don’t think “ass” can really fit into the equation at all.

I think you’re understating X-23, V.Joe, Skrull, Thor and Firebrand by quite a bit too. I think you’re overstating Wesker a little bit too, but that’s not a character we want to talk about right now…

I have to seriously question whether some of you people know how to play this fucking game.

stuff like this isn’t very helpful when you don’t further articulate on what caused you to have this reaction to begin with…

maziodyne · 2011-12-30T10:25:56.000Z

S: Zero, Wesker, Viper
A+: Dante, Dorm
A: Doom, Vergil, Trish, Hawkeye, Spencer, Wolverine, Strider, Felicia, Amaterasu, Akuma, Jill, Chris
B+: Nova, Phoenix, Taskmaster, Frank, M.O.D.O.K., Hulk, Magneto, Deadpool Firebrand,
B: Morrigan, Storm, Haggar, Ryu, Cap, Sentinel, X-23, , Nemesis, Strange, Arthur, Iron Fist, Skrull,
B-: Rocket Racoon, Chun-Li, Thor, Ghost Rider,VJ,
C: She-Hulk, Shuma, Hsien-Ko
D: Tron

This is just how i feel about tiers at this point. Hagger and arthur are both underrated. I’m not sure about magneto but i think he is ass and tron is easily the worst character in the game

Phoenix Wright’s so bad that he’s not even worth mentioning. ouch. lmao. or did you forget?

mrmuffinwaffle · 2011-12-30T10:27:44.000Z

stuff like this isn’t very helpful when you don’t further articulate on what caused you to have this reaction to begin with…

It should be fairly obvious. Anyone who thinks Magneto is ass in this game hasn’t played it.

NissanZaxima · 2011-12-30T10:35:07.000Z

Magneto… ass?

you probably picked up the wrong copy of the game.

AceKillah · 2011-12-30T10:37:45.000Z

Maybe he meant “Magneto is in that ass”

I’m sorry but just no…no that shit is just UNACCEPTABLE!! If you are gonna put “Magneto” and “ass” in the same sentence you better like triple check that shit for typos because if ANYBODY has the nerve to say “Magneto is ass” I will call them out because they are clearly fucking drunk or blazed.

Lord_Raptor · 2011-12-30T10:39:16.000Z

Ghostrider is also a pretty good assist killer, hate calling Sent drones against him, he blows that shit up.

They nerfed torpedo and her d.A, and those were almost the entirity of her gameplay as it actually developed (with the occasional good player actually using her stun throw &ct). It would be interesting to see how she played if you actually had to try to use her other tools, but nobody’s really bothered because they got rid of the retarded shit.

also, hostile~!

Ah I see what you’re saying, and for once I wasn’t trying to be hostile >.>

DevilJin_01 · 2011-12-30T10:46:47.000Z

Your dog must have the runs because Cartwheel flip plus something like Akuma Tatsu assist is really quick when timed right. It’s a legit mix up at close range which is it’s intended purpose. Also start up invincibility for trolling on zoners.

Of course Cartwheel by itself is not a mix up.

Captain America’s mix ups is 4 frame c.L or one frame throw. Can’t do shit about it…4 frame c.L kills you, one frame throw forces you to take solid damage and sets up another mix up opportunity.

metrokard · 2011-12-30T10:50:52.000Z

when i see people say magneto is bad i think most people are saying bad as in compaired to what he used to be…i mean hes still really really good…just not as good as he was before by a small margin…its not like he got nerfed into oblivion like tron or she-hulk

xesaie · 2011-12-30T10:51:21.000Z

Ghostrider is also a pretty good assist killer, hate calling Sent drones against him, he blows that shit up.

Ah I see what you’re saying, and for once I wasn’t trying to be hostile >.>

sorry then, my net was broken for a while, that makes me jumpy >

Loligagger · 2011-12-30T10:55:47.000Z

I’d be more inclined to use She-Hulk’s grabs if they weren’t slow as fuck. Kara comand grabs aren’t even as good as they were before the slide nerf. I vaguely recall having this discussion with you before, Xesaie (assuming you’re who I think you are), and I know we won’t ever agree.

xesaie · 2011-12-30T10:59:52.000Z

I’d be more inclined to use She-Hulk’s grabs if they weren’t slow as fuck. Kara comand grabs aren’t even as good as they were before the slide nerf. I vaguely recall having this discussion with you before, Xesaie (assuming you’re who I think you are), and I know we won’t ever agree.

See my sig (not that that’s terribly helpful).

Lord_Raptor · 2011-12-30T11:10:40.000Z

I thought about trying her, but that clothesline buff is more of a nerf than anything, totally fucks up the super.

xesaie · 2011-12-30T11:12:12.000Z

I thought about trying her, but that clothesline buff is more of a nerf than anything, totally fucks up the super.

I admit its kind of bizarre. Dante has like 15 different moves that reset bounces, but not She-Hulk’s super.

Densuo · 2011-12-30T12:16:14.000Z

I just pictured something really gay and I would rather not talk about it.

I wanna see Chris’ magnum…

In any case. As far as specials. I’m wondering if there’s a limit to ground bounces on ASSISTS. I’m still thinking of my friend catching an assist with dat magnum (wall bounce) killing the point guy, and then Tiger Knee magnum x 4 dropping the assist from full life to magic pixel. it was absurd.

Also. I see a mention of using She-Hulk like she’s supposed to. I understand the whole thing with the glitch she had in Vanilla. But I don’t see it in Ultimate. she seems like she needs an armor move or two. and what is with that lampost?

Also Also. She-Hulk was nerfed because we can’t have an american made character be the sex god in Mahvel 3 when we have Morrigan. Nevermind the fact that in her comics she saved the univarse because of her huge bajambos.

bloodabeast · 2011-12-30T12:21:30.000Z

I just pictured something really gay and I would rather not talk about it.

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@ 1:25

Densuo · 2011-12-30T12:41:51.000Z

@ 1:25

@ 2:20 what I say everytime I get a kill with dat magnum