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Yeah on second go-round with holding down-back for the rest of the 10 seconds, I don’t get hit with Ultra. Thanks.

Since the j.HK hits awful high, what kind of combo potential is there for this setup? I was thinking something simple like f.MK -> s.HK xx stuff.

Lowered PP down to 1000
Going to upload all ranked matches 1000-5000 pp grind.
Going to recod them all live probably an hour each.

Looking forward to that for sure.

Starts tomorrow around 6. I’ll have it uploaded in the 7s after I’m done.
Hopefully it doesn’t lag or anything. It shouldn’t at all since I supposedly figured out why there were recording issues in the first place with this PC.

But ya commented to say my (used) mic just got delivered here.
So I can teach Dudley better now.

Ducking Anti Airs aka lv 2 extras will be uploaded within 7 days. It’ll be as long as FADC Rose.

Level 1’s music theme was Boxing. Havn’t watched Hajime no ippo since New challenger started. Want to use a track from it but not sure what.
Anyone have an OST listing I can sort by time?

You’re doing commentary?

hell no
I’ll probably just use the mic to make the teaching sessions easier.
My voice isn’t charismatic enough for commentary.
Making me blush.
You jerk.

Now?! Really?! I mean R E A L L Y ?? !!
Dammit 34, today is my flight back home, wouldn’t be able to use the leached knowledge for a while… (I mean outside my tiny community)

I actually came by to say I won’t be able to do the rank series until tuesday/wednesday.
Going a few states south.
Wish I knew sooner.
What country are you from again Gefen? I know you’ve said it before a year or more ago.
I have a surprise for next week though just wait a little longer.
It all ends next week.

Israel, but I’ve been grinding the entire state for the last two month.
Sanding this from jfk, waiting for my flight home

It was nice meeting you by the way, you’re a stand up guy. Your Bison playing pal too.

when’s tut? i’m bored.

Go learn another char/game for fun then. I’m learning more Oni and some Yun.

lol i wasn’t being serious. i would be playing AE right now but i have no internet for a while. been playing project X zone, infamous, metal gear solid 2 and megaman X1,4 while i wait.

Huge and informative tutorial Thirtyfour. Big props!
Massive amount to take in, but I’m loving Duds oki game.
How did you guys go about cleaning up your links? Persisted with match time or repetitive hours in the training room?

Gotta grind. True in any game =/

True, but which is considered optimal? I love theory, but I’d imagine the heat of the fight is the way to go?

Well you can just do both though. Make sure you can hit key combos 10+ times in a row without dropping and go for them in a middle of a match even when you’re dropping them. You’re rate will go up naturally. I gotta rework my combos since I haven’t been grinding lately myself.

Cool. Will do. Certainly not hitting BnB’s with efficiency during match play atm. I’ll keep on that grind :slight_smile: Cheers.

Annual I got your message on live.

What meaty set up do you want the most? f.HP f.HK/c.HK or c.LK?

I’ll post how to make meaty set ups in a bit


The tut will only cover f.HP f.HK/c.HK and c.LK
The tut will explain how if you know to a set up for one normal, you will know a set up for the other 3/4.

I havn’t gotten the exact numbers for everything yet (f.HK is weird)

c.MK
Frames for Meaty +7 c.LK = 40
Frames for Meaty +6 f.HK = 28-30 (idk
Frames for Meaty ++4 f.HP = 33+

I believe I’ve posted this before but here’s complete whiff frames of all normals (add all and minus 1 since you don’t count the one frame where a move starts up and is active (like jab start up 3 active 2 recovery 6 = 10)

Standing
LP 10
MP 14
HP 27
LK 16
MK 20
HK 21
Crouching
LP 11
MP 17
HP 26
LK 13
MK 29
HK 31
Forward
LP 16
MP 20
HP 32
MK 18
HK 33

Duck
LK 20
MK 21
HK25
EX 17

Fdash 19
Bdash 25

Jump Empty 40
Jump Normal 44

Now since I posted already the frames for a meaty c.LK +7 You just add two things that add up to 40. So After first frame c.LK for a +7 c.LK

empty Jump c.LK works
fdash, s.HK , c.LK works
fdash, MK Duck works

It’s been known f.MK s.LP, and f.HP after c.MK set up a +6 f.HK but if you add them both up you don’t get matching numbers. It’s also known capcom made f.HK’s frame advantage cap at +6 to prevent links into ultra. f.HK has 4 active frames so there’s 2 frames you can hit +6 on.

f.MK, s.LP = 18+10 28
f.HP = 33 frames

After testing out f.MK s.LP it’s easy to say that it’s not a frame perfect set up, there’s delay to make it work so imo it’s not viable for the tut (lol wait til the end when i ask if subtracting 1 frame is right or wrong. anyway)

So here’s where I make a set up that adds to 31 and 33 to see whether the f.HP hits at the beginning or end ( this is being done live so it may need touchign up but this is how i think)
Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doPTvsIvOjE for reference
a 32 frame set up that sets up f.HK also sets up a +5 f.HP. If this set up doesn’t hit f.HK on the last frame, a last frame f.HK set up will make f.HP be +6(i just realized f.HP is 32 so i went back and hanged from 33 so any numbers i didnt change now u know (i dont post this in notepad Im just not backspacing)
I’ll add I like to use fdash, jabs and jump for set ups because there’s little chance of error when you use them.

LK Duck + c.LP = 31
Fdash + s.MP = 33

After a good long 10 attempts each I’m like “nah” so I go back to the f.MK s.LP set up and try an easier one.
Fdash c.LP = 19 +11 30
It’s +6
I test f.HP with this set up to get +6
If it’s +6 c.MK is 32/33 for a +6 f.HK
Meaning 2 more frames and you can do a +8 f.HP off a c.MK by now you get the idea of how you can turn old set ups into new set ups.
So far it took Oh let me post annual posted

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