so who should i move? Cody to average… or Oni to below average.
I’m only counting viable fireballs (Oni’s uncharged hado)
Actually I see I’ll put Cody at Average
not mad, just disappointed to see potential wasted online, catch my drift? didn’t you say you struggled vs oni/evil ryu? they are like 6-4 dudleys adv or better 65-35 is how badly evil ryu loses. You can practically only use st.hp against him and win.
I think it’s time for you to get in my arms learn the mu’s like a GOOD BITCH.
no actually I haven’t played against any good oni’s or evil ryu so i left it as 5-5 and noted why i put them as 5-5 for now, like I said your reading is lacking and you still off topic. Only good Oni’s I played til this day are Rico and Chris, but you know I can’t mention big name players because I’m simply “bragging” just like you said. But we all know how ignorant people are these days.
On topic:
Guiles Sonic Booms are less likely to be punished compared to Deejays, the problem is the spacing between the fireballs and the position your in towards punishing them with ex duck straight / upper.
Deejay’s Air Slasher has 39 total frame durations with a 12 frame startup, LP, MP, and HP. This is excluding EX.
Guiles Booms are 9 frame startup with 29 frame durations on LP, 31 on MP, and 33 on HP. This is excluding EX.
why doesn’t frame data show EX Duck frames?
your the one lacking reading, I said online players as an example. you use online players as a dominance and say that you are better then them, and whoever you give advice to you automatically think your better then them. Online is like a rough draft and then playing offline is the grade. I assumed you brag alot online because that’s all you do most of the time and reading some of your old post about saying how your better then everyone made me believe that.
Fuck outta here son, don’t get my words twisted. Again…
Sit down, shut up, put on the goggles, get ya ass in the lab learn what works against evil ryu, oni and be a GOOD BITCH.
Edit::
So mellow, what’s that hakan thing you keep talking about? lol show that video, you said i was embarrassed against some hakan? what video was this? lol
putting together tut now.
since reporting isnt enough brb
Chun’s LP Fireball is only 1 frame faster recovery than Ryu according to the frame data but we all know the fucking thing is so slow that if you duck/ultra too soon you end up getting hit by it. The fucking thing crawls on screen, I’m pretty sure it’s slower than Guile’s LP Boom.
I figure it’d just be best to go by overall speed, and non EX fireballs
Also I’m not including dan because you can react to his fireballs with s.HP or f.MP.
or maybe i should include dan because i can beat Dudleys with him.
probably not in the list of speed/use vs dudley but at the end.
I could just put something like
"Didnt include Dan because trading s.HP trading with Gadokens shouldnt be considered technology."
His fireball has it’s uses and it’s 40/41/42/40 recovery makes it faster than Gouken’s.
Sagat’s standing tiger shot is 35 frames recovery, low tiger shot 45.
but Dan’s fireball doesnt need to be ducked
his hitbox is his fireball 
also ya i almost forgot about low/high tiger shot (ST fans cringe here)
do you think i should really include dan in the list?
I figure shince it’s braindead easy to react to a gadoken with s.Fierce (6 frame start up 120 damage) than ducking it with Duck Upper Straight (100/120 damage).
I could just do a dan lulz part at the end like i did with MGB in “pokes”.
Please stay on topic and refrain from personal attacks, folks.
Just make a note of Dan being unlisted and be like: Here’s why
clip of Dan get hit with sHP during fireball startup
I don’t play Dan and have no idea how good his fireball is outside of negating other fireballs and crMK fireball (if he does that).
I remember reading somewhere saying that st.hk into ex ducking on block was +1 frame adv or was it on hit?
not start up.
go to training mode have dan do HP gado
during recovery while the fireball is out basically, do s.HP
it trades
he’s pretty much recvoerying the whole time his fireball is out
free s.HP f.MP depending on how long the fireballs been out
psn thread
source me in training mode
but not talking about blockstrings and pressure now
two things
- this thread is absolutely insane.
- i found the tutorials on dudley’s pokes and anti-airs to be very helpful. Don’t know if that says more about where my skill level is, or more about the tutorial.
ok third thing: I am a little confused about why c.mp is not a poke… it has a great hitbox and is special cancelable right? couldn’t it be used to counterpoke with a buffered exmgb? (buffered from range so it only comes out on a counterhit, not on block obviously) - genuine apologies if this is a dumb question, i’ve only been using dudley for about 2 days (and he plays very differently than guile and abel)
I hope you’re ready, Thirtyfour.
Level 3 Strike - pro
OS
Blockstrings and pressure
Resets
Buffering
s.HK c.MP s.MP c.LK s.LP c.LP f.LP
including all of these normals as regular pokes at the beginner level woulda been too much for starter dudz
idk how to make spoilers
oh wells
level 3 will include 3s clips of famous 3s players using everything i’ll explain in tut
also doing the same for Oki
spoilers/spoilers
My body is ready
sakura on stick is cheap
ok, so my hunch about c.mp was partially correct then? its just going to be in a later tutorial? thats cool, thanks for doing these by the way, they are really awesome. I’m still in that phase with dudley where i feel like he has no weaknesses, have you considered doing a tutorial covering dudley’s weak points and how best to overcome them through smart play? (i know these must be hard work, so please don’t think I’m being inconsiderate of your time, I just like the videos and wouldn’t mind some more…)
the only weakness I’m not covering is Dudley on Defense.
I’ll have matches uploaded after tutorial is finished so people can see how dudley can be played.
also subscribe to Mellow since he already has matches of his Dudley uppeded.
level 3 should cover everything .
bad habits like canceling into LK duck on block after s.HK will be covered
going for bad mix ups like thunderbolt cross up 50-50 will be covered (im saying dont use this since it’s just bad)
How to reset into overhead or how to use in blockstring pressure will be covered.
when to buffer. how to buffer. who to buffer, how to not get baited into buffering will be covered.
OSs include anti backdashes, target combo OSs that you would use in block strings, ultra 1/2 OSs, Meaty c.LK set ups, meaty f.HP set ups, 4+ frame safe jumps. duck upper safe jumps HP jet upper safe jumps, anti 3 frame DP “safe” jumps (whiff on reversal type like j.HP bison)
Dudley’s best pressure comes from being +1 +2 or 0 on hit/block. He can apply pressure beign -1 -2 on block as well I’ll cover that too (example what to do after LP MGB on hit/block, after HP MGB or Duck Upper (125 and 120 damage I’ll explain you can hit confirm into Duck Upper at pro level over HP MGB since more advantage on hit + reset option with empty duck)
There’s so much people dont know about in detail yet.
I’ll cover everything.
I have everyone covered.
o wait i am covering defense
Alright kids
I don’t want to see report queues of 10 people being mad and hurling insults at each other.
So to all those involved and arguing (and you know who you are), stop it now, or you will get a nice little time out off of srk for a while.
Any questions or issues, feel free to complain to me and see what happens.
tldr:
PLAY NICE OR MOD WILL BE ANGRY.
So when did a 50-50 become a bad mix-up?