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Oh for the most part they are clones with past iterations. tekken 6 they gave eddy and christie(for example) some different moves/range/properties/hitboxes. Not to sure about all the differences in this version, but more or less they are pretty much the same. I know michelle is pretty close to julia(T6), but this version juila has a brand new move set under her alas Jaycee. hope that helps ha.

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So I’m guessing Angel hates Devil Jin?

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Probably… Originally Angel was just Symbolic of the remaining goodness in Kazuya. Hence why she never made a cannon appearance from tekken 2. This may have been retconned. But one of the greatest moment’s in the tekken is in the t2 intro where kazuya is in the zaibatsu looking over his empire with glowing red eye’s and angel is standing protectively behind him as if the wing’s are his own.

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Sucks, they’re my tag team :frowning:

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I wouldn’t worry too much about that, most of the Mishima’s for example don’t like anyone, and they are back to being powerful in this game also lot’s of the team’s that hate each other still have cool tag throw option’s that are unique to them…

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Okay. Time to read up on some Tekken lore to see who Alex has canonical synergy with!

I was talking about the rage dynamics between the console characters and the other characters.

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well if you knew how to phrase your question better, you would receive a better answer…
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/wiki/Tekken_Tag_Tournament_2/System/Netsu_Relationship_Chart
synergy goes with Like/Likes(anna,bruce), Like/Hate(alisa,jack-6), Hate/Hate(djin,hei)

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You still haven’t answered his question, which is ‘no, we don’t know how console characters relate to others yet’.

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ah… my bad, no word has been released. i heard even the prima guide doesn’t have the info

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Some of these character relations make sense… some are just far-fetched/weird. Is there a reason why Jin doesn’t like Jun any longer? She was the primary motivation behind Jin competing in T3 and killing True Ogre in the first place (despite losing to Paul before then). Then again, Jun isn’t exactly “nice” this time around isn’t she? There is this thing called “Unknown”, who is pretty much a straight forward boss character, more or less.
I know this game isn’t canonical but perhaps Jin is suspicious of her? Jun seems to still thing highly of Jin as well thus making this even more confusion). Kazuya also seems to dislike her too…! But, Jun is neutral towards him… This is just too weird…!

Nobody seems to like Ogre very much but that not entirely hard to see why. There are also a few others that might catch people off guard like Feng and Jinpachi (Feng was originally after Jinpachi’s scrolls for his fighting style…)

Oh well…

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I can understand the Mishimas hating each other, but I would have preferred to see at least Jin and Kaz have an affinity towards her.

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:eek: Kaz/Jun team would be 222 stronk. Gotta nerf dat. :smiley:

Speaking of which, I’m trying to find the interview where either Harada or someone on his team was talking about Tag2 doing some retconning and inserting itself as canon. If anyone can find it, please let me know~

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Alex and Bryan had a team-specific combo, animation, or something in TTT so maybe they work well together in this game?

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This may sound a bit off topic but I’ve been looking for move sets and… I discovered that Angel might not even have anything to do with Kazuya’s soul to begin with. Just click on the following web page and see the introduction. She might not even have any influence on Netsu… if she does then…
http://eng.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/Angel

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The only people that like Ogre are the Ogre players that abuse his jab.

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Several aspects of the Tekken Netsu Relationship charts were updated… There are still a few things that rub me the wrong way:
First and foremost… you notice that quite a few of the characters… dislike or outright hate each other correct? However, the said characters in those categories have specific high damage tag throws. This also works for others that do like each other but I found this to be quite interesting. Apparently, Jin still does not like Jun… this is really a coincidence - Jin fears that “something isn’t right about her” according to Harada’s tweet entry not too long ago - something Jun(known) does NOT sit well with Jin therefore, he is giving her the cold shoulder. I don’t understand his beef with Xiao however… I guess he just finds her annoying or he just does not want her in the way. I’m a little bit baffled by why Heihachi respects Xiaoyu however… then again, Blood Vengeance might not even be canonical, but Xiaoyu (and Alisa) pretty much saw how awful Heihachi was when he killed Shin Kamiya (who might be playable in the near future depending on popularity). More on Jin… why does he dislike Christie? I don’t think they ever seen each other before at all. Christie does like HIM very much, but it should be the other way around either, sense Jin isn’t even familiar with her at all, unless Eddy ran his mouth too much. As for DLC, they are pretty much confirmed to be neutral towards every other character, but this might also get an update as well. I am also a little bit confused about Lee as well… Nina and Anna are not even mentioned any where… or perhaps they just simply run into each other from time to time but they don’t really communicate? And, what is it with Jun and Kazuya? Jun still seems neutral towards him, but Kazuya just despises her completely! And… Well, Mokujin does sort of make sense… I guess, but I don’t get Jun being disliked though… no. Jun(known)…! So maybe it does make sense. Ogre’s makes sense too. Paul DID kick his “Ancient” forms ass in T3 and it is pretty much self explanatory that he would hate Jin and Nina as well.
I guess I rambled on a little too much but… There are some interesting aspects that do stick out. On the other hand, it does not influence the game play THAT much anyhow - this is just me still pointing out a few weird areas of the list.

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How do i do bryan and dragonouvs special tag throw ?

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Drag f,f+1+2~5 IIRC

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:eek: So some of the stuff you pointed out is true and some is buried under Tekken’s very ambiguous history.

Pretty much everyone is spooked by Jun coming back, so no wonder Jin doesn’t get along with her.

Xiaoyu is actually good friends with Heihachi and it’s through him that she met Jin, so them getting along well is expected.

Harada has publicly expressed his discontent with Blood Vengeance, so I would imagine anything added to the game from BV is strcitly extra, which is why Alisa/Xiaoyu have friendship stuff going on.

Jin/Christie is probably a dislike because Jin and Eddy have a poor history together and while Christie may not be directly involved, she is following Eddy to the ends of the Earth, so she might fall into that annoying category.

Come to think of it, does Jin like anyone? He’s the first guy to make it genuinely cool to hate everyone.

I would imagine some stuff is just to even out the likes/dislikes although it seems that there are more dislikes and neutrals than likes, LOL.

Tekken = Hate Everyone All The Time

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Ok a few thing’s here. Most of it I don’t find all that wierd if you consider…

Jin dislikes jun basically because of those reasons you state. He think’s there is something wrong with her due to Unknown. So it make’s sense to me.
I don’t think Jin has ever really liked Xiaoyu, the affection is not returned.

Heihachi does not respect Xaioyu, He “likes” her. She attended his school and he is a dirty old git obviously. She also has a pet panda and heihachi likes bears. They have a storied history.

Blood vengeance is definitely not canonical, Harada said it’s an alternative timeline between T5 and 6. Jin for example is not yet supposed to have control over his devil form in the official story.

Why does Jin dislike Christie? Hell know’s maybe because Eddy is in his army and she would be getting in the way, or maybe he is just gay after all =P.

Harada has said that Kazuya’s and Jun union in T2 was not love but fate (not rape either) That’s all very ambiguous but Jun likely realizes Kazuya is the way he is due to the devil’s influence, and Kazuya has shown a complete hatred for the Kazama bloodline in some of his story sequences due to their innate counter to the devil’s influence. (see some of asuka’s old FMV’s). Also consider that Kazuya’s devil form is not powerful anymore due to the volcano incident and it moving to Jin to save itself. (more on this at the end because I believe it’s now been retconned under harada’s control in a retarded fashion). He is now corrupt and pure evil which is probably why Angel has never made another canon appearance since T2. She failed… Although in Tekken 4 he took control and unified the devil within him he is still after Jin to regain his other half (or just the power in general now) and Jin is obviously a huge pain in the ass for him and he hates everything the Kazama bloodline stands for.

I think lee’s relationship with the william’s sister’s is all but forgotten he also has become a bit of a joke character. Anna work’s for kazuya and Nina for jin…

Mokijin is there and awaken’s to combat evil which will threaten the planet and Jun is corrupted by Unknown so it makes sense to me…

Now, Remember Harada was not in control of this franchise as producer till about Tekken 3 I believe. I think lot’s of the story concept’s of the previous games (tekken 2 in particular, have been lost). He even went on record in the Blood vengeance dvd saying he didn’t think tekken had a deep enough story to be seriously be made into a movie. A notion I find ridiculous. Up until around 3 or four when it started getting a bit silly the game had a lot of interesting mystery and concept’s of good and evil. It would work fantastically as a movie if they concentrated on the Mishima bloodline and Kazuya’s fall from grace. He obviously doesn’t see it so there can’t be much effort being put into characterization these day’s which is a shame and made Tekken unique in the fighting game genre.

The Devil stuff got changed to be a ‘gene’ in tekken 4 which is up there as being retarded as the Starwars ‘midichlorian’ situation.
At this time they also hired an external writer for than game which likely explains the above, and have not since. Many character’s since then have become joke character’s as well.

I think the Angel situation got dumbed down. There is some deep symbolism there in the old game’s or maybe the fan’s just have better imaginations. Ultimately now and likely retconned since she is fighting for the good in kazuya’s soul if anything and that likely no longer exists. So no more angel in the canon games…

I think this happens often at this stage in Tekken. If people are talking and debating about the game it’s a win situation for them. Ambiguity works in favor for them because they conveniently also don’t need to spend as much effort on that side of things yet still generate speculation and interest.
Look at Leo. When Tekken 6 first came out in the japanese arcades I had the characters profile translated and he explicitly refered to leo as “she”. Which indicates it was originally envisioned as a ‘tomboy’ type. Harada realized their was confusion about this and took advantage of it…

Ultimately I think the biggest reason or influence for some of the Netsu decisions is basic game play balance (harada is a solely gameplay guy after all) some combination’s would be a bit ridiculous if they got rage at 50%. This is a bad example but for instance imagine if Kazuya and Devil jin (widely regarded at this point as two of the three bests character’s in the game) got rage at 50% instead of what it is now…

btw As with everything Jin. Kazuya made hating everyone cool FIRST! =P. I’m old school and played the game since 1 so felt a bit betrayed when they replaced him with jin in 3.