Transformers Thread

[FighterX]

Man, it took me so freakin’ long to figure out the arms and legs. First, I couldn’t get the upper and lower arms to line up properly. Then, it took me while to figure out that I had to rotate the legs before I could put them together. Trust me, being able to read Japanese does NOT help with the instructions any. :razzy:

I’m seriously just thinking of leaving him in gun mode.

I think I had to study those instructions just about as hard as studying for a test.

[Soundatron]

I still don’t understand why Magnus gets blown to pieces and can be revived but yet Prime gets stabbed, sliced and shot and dies?

I love the movie but reeeeeally hate it sometimes. :lovin: :annoy:

It’s purely simple. Magnus died? yes. Prime WANTED us to think he was dead mmm. Hence, why he was the only one to turn black and grey when he died.

[Azrael]

I still don’t understand why Magnus gets blown to pieces and can be revived but yet Prime gets stabbed, sliced and shot and dies?

I love the movie but reeeeeally hate it sometimes. :lovin: :annoy:

Been saying this FOR YEARS.

Especially when you watch the episode “Roll For It”, when Prime shields an explosion, takes HEAVY fire from the Decepticon jets…and then while Wheeljack/Ratchet are trying to repair him, Laserbeak blasts him WITH HIS PARTS EXPOSED. AND HE WAS STILL ALIVE! Apparently, Prime’s Achilles Heel is in his pancreas or something.

The shuttle scene always bothers me too because they’ve been shooting each other for years - why is it suddenly now fatal? And then you factor in Ultra Magnus getting blown to pieces (not to mention Springer getting diced up by a garbage sow in the subsequent Five Faces ep) and…yeah. :bluu:

I also wondered - why did Unicron bother making a “deal” with Megatron? Doesn’t really seem like Unicron to politely ask first. IMHO that scene should have been like…

Unicron: Hmm, some damaged Decepticons. I can use them for my purposes.
Megatron: Hey, WTF! I don’t agree to that!
Unicron: It’s funny that you think you have a choice in the matter. Bitch.

And why was Unicron all “you must destroy the Matrix. It is the ONE thing that can stop me.” Especially to the most ambitious and treacherous robot in the known universe (well, second to Starscream…). Unicron’s kinda daft, I guess.

With tighter writing the movie could have been SO much better.

[DS]

I also wondered - why did Unicron bother making a “deal” with Megatron? Doesn’t really seem like Unicron to politely ask first. IMHO that scene should have been like…

Unicron: Hmm, some damaged Decepticons. I can use them for my purposes.
Megatron: Hey, WTF! I don’t agree to that!
Unicron: It’s funny that you think you have a choice in the matter. Bitch.

With tighter writing the movie could have been SO much better.

Now, now. Unicron DID ask politely, but Megatron still had some huge energon balls and said, “Hey, I’m Megatron, motherfucker! You don’t bitch me around!” So of course, Unicron is gonna be all like, “You know what? Fuck you. STFU. You’re my bitch now for opening your mouth. See guys? He did it. Not me.”

[System_1]

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Cause its the 80’s, and NOTHING made sense in the 80’s :lol:

[PsychoSquall]

Plothole-formers: more than meets the eye!

[Azrael]

Now, now. Unicron DID ask politely, but Megatron still had some huge energon balls and said, “Hey, I’m Megatron, motherfucker! You don’t bitch me around!” So of course, Unicron is gonna be all like, “You know what? Fuck you. STFU. You’re my bitch now for opening your mouth. See guys? He did it. Not me.”

Yeah, but then what happens is that Megatron ends up going out like a bitch. His last words ever are “I accept, I accept!” Then he becomes Purple Pussy Eater Galvatron, who literally IS Unicron’s bitch. And then he goes crazy.

While I’m thinking about it - how did Megs and the jets just happen to float past Unicron anyway? As the Decepticons were leaving Earth on their way to Cybertron, in order for Unicron to have met up with Megs he would have already had to have eaten Cybertron, and be well on his way to Earth. Either that, or Starscream threw Megatron really, really hard. The space geography just doesn’t work.

And why DID Prime turn gray anyway? No other dead bot did. I think that part was the writers really trying to leave emotional scars on all the little kids watching the movie. No no kids, he aint just out for the count - he dead. Look, this nigga turned GRAY, he’s already decomposing!

Then you watch the episode where Zombie Prime is getting blown to pieces while piloting a shuttle into a bomb, all the while saying “Till all are one”…shit, how did any of us kids turn out right?

I love how, though, later, when the human scientists retrieve him, there’s no Quintesson fire, and Prime is in one piece. He doesn’t even have his movie damage. AND he’s not gray either.

Y’know what, fuck all this “new version” nonsense, just give me the original story actually done right.

[DS]

…shit, how did any of us kids turn out right?

That’s a pretty simple answer: The cartoons of yesterday taught us the life lessons that we would have eventually learned at an older age. Thanks to these cartoons, we knew shit before our parents even told us anything. I loved TV at one point for being the father I never acknowledged. It taught me everything.

But yeah, Starscream needs to become a quarterback or something because he must have hurled Megs really hard for him to get to Unicron. But then again, he may have been floating for a few days. Unicron doesn’t move that fast either.

Also, I dunno about you, but in the movie, Wheeljack did look kinda gray all the way to me. I forget the other bot next to him, but he was gray too. That’s what it looked like to me anyway.

[Azrael]

That’s a pretty simple answer: The cartoons of yesterday taught us the life lessons that we would have eventually learned at an older age. Thanks to these cartoons, we knew shit before our parents even told us anything. I loved TV at one point for being the father I never acknowledged. It taught me everything.

I dunno about that. We jumped from the cartoon, where the TF’s used to shoot each other all the time, to the movie, where suddenly it was fatal. And stuff like Iron Hide getting his head blown off at point-blank range. Also, you look at GI Joe - in the toon, nobody could shoot for shit (unless it was at a BAT) and vehicles politely waited to explode until after everyone safely ejected. Then jump to the movie where Duke is getting stabbed in the heart by snakes and shit. I guess it did make men out of us in the end, but I would have liked a somewhat softer transistion. It was like the cartoons were soft foreplay - a few strokes of the hair, maybe a light kiss or two - and then right to the movies, which was like a huge, un-lubed cock up the ass.

But yeah, Starscream needs to become a quarterback or something because he must have hurled Megs really hard for him to get to Unicron. But then again, he may have been floating for a few days. Unicron doesn’t move that fast either.

:lol: Starscream: Hey Unicron, go long…

Doesn’t seem like that much time passes, as Galvatron interrupts Starscream’s coronation, and it doesn’t really seem like that’s something Starscream would wait around to do. Then, the Decepticons attack Metroplex (again) while the Autobots are still kind of reeling from the initial attack.

Also, I dunno about you, but in the movie, Wheeljack did look kinda gray all the way to me. I forget the other bot next to him, but he was gray too. That’s what it looked like to me anyway.

Nope, full color.

This scene’s all fucked up too. Hey kids! Here’s the corpse of one of your most beloved characters! Well, you don’t get to see how he died, but note the large gaping hole in his body - they got him good.

That movie made men out of all of us.

[Shade]

While I’m thinking about it - how did Megs and the jets just happen to float past Unicron anyway? As the Decepticons were leaving Earth on their way to Cybertron, in order for Unicron to have met up with Megs he would have already had to have eaten Cybertron, and be well on his way to Earth. Either that, or Starscream threw Megatron really, really hard. The space geography just doesn’t work.

I actually do remember Unicron saying something along the line, “I have summoned you here, Megatron” or something. I just came to believe Unircron had the power to bring objects to him, or locate other transformers within space. I’m sure that ability goes hand in hand with the planets he chooses to devour. Unicron is a God/Deity, so this ability doesnt seem far-fecth’d at all to me.

[Azrael]

^That actually does make sense. It would be fairly easy for Unicron to vacuum in a few adrift Transformers. …That’s a looooong way to go, but still possible.

I used to think the whole “load’s too heavy in space” Astrotrain thing was way off, but the way they worded it made sense. I think Astrotrain said he didn’t have enough energon to make it to Cybertron as is, something like that.

[PsychoSquall]

Unicron wanted the Matrix to be destroyed, so he should have just made Galvatron self destruct right after he got the Matrix from Magnus. Afterall, he made Galvatron, and it’s been shown that he can cause him immense pain automatically. So he ‘should’ be able to just blow him up whenever he wants.

Then, again, Magnus kind of blew up himself, and the Matrix came out unscratched.

[FighterX]

With tighter writing the movie could have been SO much better.

Not to mention all the scenes they didn’t animate!

http://www.wombatking.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=4

I like how Prime piledrived one of the coneheads before he stood up to face Megatron.

[DS]

It was like the cartoons were soft foreplay - a few strokes of the hair, maybe a light kiss or two - and then right to the movies, which was like a huge, un-lubed cock up the ass.

I agree.

:lol: Starscream: Hey Unicron, go long…

Doesn’t seem like that much time passes, as Galvatron interrupts Starscream’s coronation, and it doesn’t really seem like that’s something Starscream would wait around to do. Then, the Decepticons attack Metroplex (again) while the Autobots are still kind of reeling from the initial attack.

Hmmm…that’s a possibility. Maybe a day? I mean, Cybertron can’t be THAT close to Earth. Fucking writers not explaining the actual distance. I hate them.

Nope, full color.

This scene’s all fucked up too. Hey kids! Here’s the corpse of one of your most beloved characters! Well, you don’t get to see how he died, but note the large gaping hole in his body - they got him good.

That movie made men out of all of us.

Shit, without any of yesterday’s cartoons, we’d be the pussies that run about the Earth today. But yes, TF The Movie stands out amongst them because it taught us that even the most highest of tiers(Prime) can be beaten. Another thing the movie taught me was that if you get blown apart, a Junkion will put you back together…oh wait…Fuck. Ok. It taught us to dodge gunfire and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY. Stupid Magnus. He didn’t even run. Such a horrible leader. If I was Prime, when I came back I would have backhanded the bitch until he shed tears of energon.

Magnus: Damnit! Open!

Me: No, nigga! Run!!! He’s after your ice, son!

Has there ever been an origin story for Unicron? Seeing as how I never read the Simon Furman stuff, I never imagined him to have an origin story. Hmm…Wiki, here I come!!!

[Diek_Stiekem]

Been saying this FOR YEARS.

Especially when you watch the episode “Roll For It”, when Prime shields an explosion, takes HEAVY fire from the Decepticon jets…and then while Wheeljack/Ratchet are trying to repair him, Laserbeak blasts him WITH HIS PARTS EXPOSED. AND HE WAS STILL ALIVE! Apparently, Prime’s Achilles Heel is in his pancreas or something.

Ah but you forget that the damage in the movie is inflicted by mighty Megatron himself… destruction done with precision and care…

But seriously…

I blame Perceptor, with Wheeljack and Ratchet dead your Battle Poll 2005 theory makes perfect sense Azrael.

[Khaotika]

http://www.botcon.com/images/thundercrackerPREbot.jpg - Classics Thunderhonky

http://www.botcon.com/images/thundercrackerPREalt.jpg - What, no black tailfins?

[Warpticon]

I have quit analyzing the movie ages ago. It’s Star Wars with robots. They even added the female love interest with the buns that switches dudes from the main character to the sarcastic second fiddle mid-movie. Nevermind the giant planet-destroying sphere or the conversion of the main villain to a new, more powerful form, or the death of the master leading to the main character’s eventual uprising, etc. It’s so shameless it’s hilarious. I enjoy it because it’s Transformers, but it’s not a good movie.

[Azrael]

Holy shit.

The only question is how fast I can buy these.

[Satomiblood]

In the TFTM 20th Anniversary DVD, the writers mentioned how surprised they were at the negative reaction regarding Prime’s death. They got letters from fans and parents and their answer was, “We didn’t know Prime was that popular.”

[m121akuma]

Unicron wanted the Matrix to be destroyed, so he should have just made Galvatron self destruct right after he got the Matrix from Magnus. Afterall, he made Galvatron, and it’s been shown that he can cause him immense pain automatically. So he ‘should’ be able to just blow him up whenever he wants.

Then, again, Magnus kind of blew up himself, and the Matrix came out unscratched.

Maybe the Matrix is like some “One Ring” kinda shit. Could only be destroyed in the bowels of Unicron or some shit. After all, if it was formed by a deity (Primus), it makes sense that only a deity could destroy it.