Yeah but this is like, I dunno, them practically TRYING to alienate TF’s og fanbase. I find it more than disappointing that they seem to be going for a younger and newer fanbase that they hope to initially ring in with the live action movie, rather than be faithful to the fans. We’ve been here for over 30 years. They fucking owe us:annoy:
and that’s the problem
the fans’ sense of entitlement.
Kids keep the brand alive for years to come, the more kids they can rope into it now, the more long-term fans (like us) they’ll have in the future.
they HAVE to strike a balance.
so, yes, as a toy company, catering to the kids is Important, I daresay it’s MORE important than catering to the adult fanbase.
and Transformers hasn’t been around for 30 years…it came out in 1984.
unless you’ve been collecting the Japanese Microchange and Diaclone figures, which I highly doubt.
this is 2007 cartoon network! show me some detail!
nobody wants cubist prime! they want and design with some thought put into it!
I only wish predaking was overproduced.
Ive noticed that some of the reissues are at rock bottom prices, especially hound, I saw hound for around $30, maybe even less. does nobody like hound? or are there just too many. once I save up enough predaking will be mine
I just think its a terrible design in general, regardless of the original.
I mean, he looks like the bastard love child of PS1 Crash Bandicoot and Donkey Kong.
Fuck kids. They don’t realize how deep TF is and how it’s one big allegory for the Vietnam War. And dood, seriously, you are a Transformers fan. HAVE A LITTLE PRIDE!
To be completely honest, I won’t even watch the show if that’s the look they’re going with.
You know, every time somebody mentions how disappointed they are with a current Transformers line/series/cartoon/whatever, I feel the need to remind them that, in the G1 cartoon:
- Sideswipe was the best spy EVER
- Autobots drove to Africa
- Within the first three episodes, no autobots could fly except Sideswipe, then all Autobots could fly with no explanation whatsoever, and then none but Sideswipe could fly
- Powerglide fell in love with a human
- Transformers in an alien toy box
- Optimus Prime was disassembled and rebuilt into an alligator.
- A fucking alligator.
So, man, that’s a hideous look. But Hasbro doesn’t owe you shit. And before it’s declared a new alltime low in Transformers history, let’s see how the series plays out.
I just pray they dont make it EEEEXTREME! 2 teh MAXX like loonatics or whatever the fuck that show is called. I noticed it was on dvd too, why? can anyone vouch for loonatics or is it as crappy as I think it is?
I feel where you’re coming from, but I dunno about this one. After the first few episodes of Armada, Energon, and Cybertron I pretty much knew I wouldn’t like it. Although, I still watched it, and at least gave it a chance, but this? Man, this is awful. So bad that I seriously thought it was a joke until I looked into it more. My own personal opinion of course, but no matter how good the story and action could turn out to be, all I would do is laugh at how ridiculous it all looks. I’ll always love G1 for nostalgic reasons. Tranformers were a major part of my life as a kid. With that in mind, no matter how stupid G1 was, nothing can really ever take it’s place for me. However, after I stopped being closed minded and actually gave Beast Wars a chance, I ended up loving it. It’s become my favorite TF series. Even Beast Machines was a good show despite the fact that I didn’t like the organic stuff.
Everything just seems to have gone downhill since then. I know Hasbro doesn’t owe me shit, and I really don’t care about any of that. I’m but a mere fraction of the fan I used to be anyway. I’ts just so obvious that they know whatever new stuff they put out is going to make money regardless of if it sucks and therefore they put no effort into making sure it’s good.
As hokey as G1 might have been, I think it stands the test of time. There are plenty of shows I LOVED as a kid, but I couldn’t sit through 10 minutes now without becoming terribly bored. I think Thundercats is the biggest example.
But I can actually watch and enjoy G1. It’s not particularly nostalgia either - I found that I didn’t remember the vast majority of the episodes. But they still kept me entertained. For me at least, G1 is, if nothing else, a good show.
I think I said earlier in this thread, one of the hardest things to undertake as a writer is a remake. You’ve got to find a way to tell a new story without alienating all the existing fans who may or may not want things to stay the same. Despite that though, writers/designers still have a fundamental duty to make whatever they create not suck. And I’m sorry, but that Optimus sucks ass.
Who knows? The show might end up being awesome. I enjoyed PPG on CN, and it’s not like the artwork/designs in that was revolutionary. I’m just saying, that Prime really does suck. A lot.
that shit looks like it would be a character in dexters laboratory :wasted:
Az, just out of curiosity what was your favorite season of G1? Most people go with 2, but I really enjoyed the post-movie stuff. Even though some things didn’t really add up, I loved the episodes where they went into origins & history. Plus the fact that most of the eps took place in space / Cybertron. I thought Fice Faces of Darkness was awesome & Call of the Primitives is probably my single most favorite episode in G1. I dunno, I’d even go as far as saying season 3 & beyond was somewhat epic.
I also agree with being able to still enjoy Transformers today. I’ve got other old cartoons on dvd such as He-Man, Captain-N, Jem & The Holograms (guilty pleasure, I had a crush on Jem when I was a kid), but I’ve watched em’ all maybe once since I bought them, and some I didn’t even finish. Transformers, I watch G1 in it’s entirety usually once a year. Or at least all of my favorite episodes.
Anyway, I just can’t get over this news of the new show. It’s like one of those things you just know is a joke, and when you find out it’s not you feel like you’ve just entered the twilight zone. Actually I’d compare it to watching a fine chic with big tits stripping for you, and then you realize she has a penis.
It’s kinda hard to directly compare S2 and S3. I feel like the characters are better in S2, while the stories as a whole are better in S3. S2 was just having fun with the great cast of characters. I can’t help but to wonder what S3 would have been like with the same gritty stories, but with the original characters, ie no mass movie killings. Especially on the Autobot side, I feel like the new Autobots <<<<<<<<<<<< OG Autobots. Aside from Galvatron going crazy, and the loss of Starscream, not a whole lot changed for the Decepticons. Though I suppose Insane Galvatron/Starscream wouldn’t have worked as well as Megatron/Starscream.
I feel really bad that I missed out on getting GI Transformers on DVD when it was out in stores…I was so broke at the time.
QFT, especially the Thundercats part.
I dunno, Prime to me says: "HEY KIDS!! Want a balloon animal?!? rips off arm and hands it out to audience
If they were trying to show the new style off, I would have at least shown a better pose. The one they have now is too dynamic; it has destroyed space-time much faster than it would have had it just been a static full-body pose.
I’ll be watching for more info on the new 'toon, but I’m not liking what I see so far. Besides, it’s not even near mid-2008 yet, so the design may change up until the show is animated… and assuming they aren’t doing this “old-school style”, they can make running changes pretty quickly if need be. Of course, now it makes PERFECT sense on why they cast Tom Kenny as Starscream. I can totally see Screampants dancing around all fluid-like now. God help me.
the design horrible ok. Everything is totally unporportioned. TF shows haven’t been soon after BW.
Heh, well, I’m not your average TF Fan, just swing on by the Allspark sometime and check out my posts.
I don’t get along any better with them.
and I thought GI Joe was an allegory for the Vietnam War?!
Just when it you thought it get any worse…it did.
And finally…I’m thinking this one is fanart
that StarScream looks way better than the Prime and Megs… ouch