"Train harder!" - Ibuki Street Fighter V Discussion

ClutchCombo · 2016-09-08T18:10:12.000Z

It feels like Ibuki is the hardest character for me to grasp in a playing environment. do combos in training is easy but playing online vs the ken army and not having any offline sessions to join is killer. Shes so different from standard to me. But I still wanna play her. anyone have any frame trap resources and safe setup resources for my grind?

Shinkuu_Tatsumaki · 2016-09-08T19:00:07.000Z

Here’s some 3 sec bomb setups midscreen. I wrote stuff in the description to describe the setups. I don’t have a nice video editor to add text in the video and I"m too lazy for that, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjaSuXLK750

Youtube description:

You can do the usual stuff into vtc, I just happen to use c.mk because it’s hit-confirmable and doesn’t use a kunai. Wrote some narrative for the video down below.

0:00 if you want to actually tick throw the opponent, the timing is very strict with c.lk. S.jab or c.jab is a lot easier, but it’s also more telegraphed imo. Alternatively, you can whiff the c.lk and just kick the bomb by doing it early before the opponent actually lands to maybe confuse them, then the throw into the bomb is a lot easier.

0:33 using the lpmplk tc because right when it ends the bomb explodes and is also safe on block. You need to dash after tc and then you can do whatever followup you want. I just decided to do something flashy, but you can do the usual b.mp, lk dash, raida.

0:45 you can use c.lp/s.lp instead of s.mp too which will give the previous back throw setups another option so it’s not as telegraphed

1:00 the lpmphp tc will be made safe by the bomb explosion, though I think they can still dp there if they wanted, unable to test that. You can do the usual b.mp, lk dash, raida.

1:09 this setup is pretty much an all in as it’s unsafe on block. You need to slowly do the tc so that the hp will hit after the bomb explodes to reset them. Keep in mind Ken got stunned because the dummy didn’t block the c.lk and s.mp before the mk dash.

*You can use lk dash instead of mk to not crossup. Also if you bait a DP after the mk tc mk dash, the DPs will hit the bomb away, but you will get the usual CC punishes.

I’ve hit a few people with the throw setups for that big comeback win.

DevilJin_01 · 2016-09-08T19:09:09.000Z

ClutchCombo:

It feels like Ibuki is the hardest character for me to grasp in a playing environment. do combos in training is easy but playing online vs the ken army and not having any offline sessions to join is killer. Shes so different from standard to me. But I still wanna play her. anyone have any frame trap resources and safe setup resources for my grind?

Just read and watch the two videos that are in the first post of the Notes/Tech thread. That should get you going.

serpentaurus · 2016-09-09T17:02:32.000Z

Xian got it right at fighting cammy with ibuki and leaving fang for other matchups. Imo ibuki has a fenomenal matchup agaisnt her, as well as mika/laura.

DevilJin_01 · 2016-09-13T21:33:39.000Z

Majorboy vs Tokido

https://youtu.be/gz__dG4ORkY

Hes starting to play a bit cleaner and jumping less. Tokido appropriately reacts to the dashes with buttons, but Ibukis command dashes are so fast that it seems he can’t always react to them. I also like how he uses the command dash during knockdowns where he doesn’t have to worry about being negative or mash buttons.

The most interesting thing I saw was how many of Ryus buttons he was making whiff with the command dashes. If you get a read on when someone will footsie you can get behind them before their footsie extends and get a whiff punish from behind.

MadeFromMetal · 2016-09-13T23:33:06.000Z

This is probably a dumb question, but what is the best use of Ibuki’s cr.lp? I can’t truly find a use for the button and find myself neglecting it for st.lk. I feel like I’m missing something.

pepopulo · 2016-09-14T00:43:45.000Z

cr.lp combos into a kunai from close, I use it when I want to wakeup with a fast button into v trigger,can’t think of anything else atm,but I’m sure it has other good uses

KingGhidorah · 2016-09-14T03:01:04.000Z

can confirm easier into s.lp tc if you c.lp first

FYsh · 2016-09-16T00:16:32.000Z

It is also a decent frame trap to go for cr.lp to s.mk and on hit confirm go for TC. It also combos into s.mk TC on counter hit.

Be aware though that if you go for the frame trap I mentioned and they do a 3 frame jab they will beat you. Also 1 frame grab supers will wreck you when going for this so watch out for that.

DevilJin_01 · 2016-09-16T10:32:26.000Z

Well this happened.

KingGhidorah · 2016-09-16T19:38:56.000Z

Punish with hk.dp

DevilJin_01 · 2016-09-16T20:46:09.000Z

Yeah I guess he just hasn’t fought enough Birdies to know. Ex raida and super also work. Lk dp is faster but doesn’t have enough range after the pushback.

KingGhidorah · 2016-09-16T22:22:37.000Z

Yeah some birdie just did that shit to me for a whole match and I was like wtf, had to lab it up. Surprised s.lk doesn’t reach. He tried tho lol

Em-Man · 2016-09-16T22:46:59.000Z

Okay I’m growing real sick of Ibuki’s overhead being grabbable on the last few active frames. Why did Capcom make it this way? For what purpose?

DevilJin_01 · 2016-09-17T01:59:07.000Z

I think all of the overheads have grabbable frames. Its slow so you have to catch people sleeping to land it any way. Its one of the only 2 safe on block overheads (Chuns is almost as slow) so you get a free try and then can guess ex dp if you think they want to frame trap you.

pepopulo · 2016-09-21T05:35:16.000Z

Guys I need help,I’m confused
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1phr4jOfiXuaLxZgE1vk1myee_QK2RqP_M2cmnXOERDE/edit#gid=1665473429
I’m using this sheet for frame data references.
As you can see, st.HK has 10 startup frame,3 active frames and is +1 on hit,
cr.HP has 9 startup frames,4 active frames and is +2 on hit,
after a fully charged v skill in the corner I dash and then do either of thesose (opponent gets up quickly,no backroll).
st.HK hits on it’s last active frame (I can link st.LP, thus is +3)
magically, cr.HP ALSO hits on its last frame (I can link st.MP,so is +5)
this shouldn’t be possible,is the frame data wrong or I’m getting crazy?
I tested this against a crouching Necalli, meaby it’s just wonky hitboxes?
I don’t know

DaFeetLee · 2016-09-21T17:23:27.000Z

pepopulo:

Guys I need help,I’m confused
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1phr4jOfiXuaLxZgE1vk1myee_QK2RqP_M2cmnXOERDE/edit#gid=1665473429
I’m using this sheet for frame data references.
As you can see, st.HK has 10 startup frame,3 active frames and is +1 on hit,
cr.HP has 9 startup frames,4 active frames and is +2 on hit,
after a fully charged v skill in the corner I dash and then do either of thesose (opponent gets up quickly,no backroll).
st.HK hits on it’s last active frame (I can link st.LP, thus is +3)
magically, cr.HP ALSO hits on its last frame (I can link st.MP,so is +5)
this shouldn’t be possible,is the frame data wrong or I’m getting crazy?
I tested this against a crouching Necalli, meaby it’s just wonky hitboxes?
I don’t know

http://toolassisted.github.io/OKI/#IBK/87/33/28/1,1,17,0,dash+forward/18,10,3,16,stand+HK/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/

http://toolassisted.github.io/OKI/#IBK/87/33/28/1,1,17,0,dash+forward/18,9,4,16,crouch+HP/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/

Not sure what you don’t get. They both hit last active frame because cr.HP is 1F faster than s.HK but has 1 more active frame. Remember that the last startup frame is also the first active frame.

KingGhidorah · 2016-09-21T17:37:11.000Z

10 + 3 = 13
9 + 4 = 13

Lol

pepopulo · 2016-09-21T19:22:27.000Z

DaFeetLee:

pepopulo:

http://toolassisted.github.io/OKI/#IBK/87/33/28/1,1,17,0,dash+forward/18,10,3,16,stand+HK/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/

http://toolassisted.github.io/OKI/#IBK/87/33/28/1,1,17,0,dash+forward/18,9,4,16,crouch+HP/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/

Not sure what you don’t get. They both hit last active frame because cr.HP is 1F faster than s.HK but has 1 more active frame. Remember that the last startup frame is also the first active frame.

Oh shit,dunno why but i completly forgot that the first active frame is also the last frame of startup lol

StarFishPrime · 2016-09-22T17:56:21.000Z

I feel ashamed to say it, but I’ am having a lot of fun right now playing Juri

#benedictarnold