Tournament Promoters and venues to avoid!

I looked for info about it today but didnt see any. So I dont think he did a stream yet

i heard it was cancelled last minute. and regarding the ActiveGamers tournament, did ricky receive his payout yet? I know for a fact that miyuki, who won the girls tournament, did not receive her prize yet either.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=213551

maybe if someone wants to skim this.

GJ Andry :tup:

I have called the venue’s (MGL) manager, who directly dealt with the tournament organizer (Michael Anis aka BLANKA707) and spoke with him about the fee for renting the room. There was no fee - Michael claimed that there was from the very beginning AND after the tournament, and money from the players was allotted for this purpose. Later, I found out that Michael decided to “pay” MGL $50.00 after the fact because it was such a “successful tournament,” and was going to get a receipt on Tuesday of next week. He did not pay for that room. I believe he wanted to pocket that $50.00 but only decided to give that money to MGL in order to avoid suspicion of mishandling monies. Who needs a receipt for a donation, honestly?

There’s still confusion over what money went where, and how much. And this isn’t the first time.

Please refer to my phone calls placed to MGL and the thread for any relevant information.


http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=213551

Sorry guys. I’m going to review this information tonight when I get the chance. I’ve been very busy with things the last few days so i haven’t gotten a chance to read any of the info you guys are providing me with.

Blanka 707 has been added. Sorry for not getting to this sooner. I’ve been very busy the last few days.

thx this thread is helpful, ill be keepina look out for guys like this

Thanks a lot Bison - it’s really appreciated.

Edited first post with another organizer.

Edited first post, added location to Noobie games

One of the people who is on the promoter list made a new thread for a tournament coming up.
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=221533

I run the Southwest Tournament/Events Schedule and Organizer Discussion Thread in of course the southwest part. Until he gets removed from this list of tournament promoters to avoid I will not be adding that tournament to that list. CO is considered part of southwest so I will be keeping a look out for our players.

-DJ-

Thank you for letting me know about that. I’ll put a link up in his thread to this page so people are aware.

Thank you for this thread. I know that it is hard work keeping all of this in order and appreciate your hard work.

We have to deal with DFG’s crap in Colorado consistently and while the old school members know about this, the new ones don’t so it is nice to give them a heads up before hand as I don’t want to see anyone getting ripped off.

Thanks again!

Yo, this is DancingFighterG. So one quick question Bisonopolis. So if a person lies about an organization event(s) despite other communities obviously supporting there events, turnouts, etc then what is the criteria for putting someone on a “list” despite not having evidence to support a claim? So I can could easily say and bring everyone that I know on this board and say this person or group did something shady so there events won’t be posted. Is there a judging criteria for a person doing consistent shady things to lead to the “list” or is it simply because a couple of people that are loud enough to make people make a decision and put them on a “list”. Just curious as I have been doing events for over 8 years and a couple of people shout some lie and now we are here. Just trying to understand the logic.

Andy, if you have to put up with my crap I’ve have to put up with you crap too. I try to allow new players to avoid such things but it seems like you want to expose players too it. So please start another rant as you always do right now or simply be quite and let Bisonopolis answer the question.

Gotta respect the wanting of redemption. Sooner or later we have to post guidelines on how to get yourself out of the dog house. Change names? Disappear? If Michael Vicks can do it, anybody can!

Yo, this is DancingFighterG. Vextax, see to me unlike all those other people on this list if someone puts me out on blast they better have the evidence to back it up instead of yelling and screaming then all of a sudden moderators, admins, etc cave in. Redemption is the last thing on my mind because there is nothing to redem about. At the end of the day it’s all about bettering the community, education and training for leadership. If you know you didn’t do anything wrong then I’m going to say something. It may not change anything but I’m not going to simply just say there right and be do with it. If anything I encourage people to read the post and hear the lies and crazy accuations so people can see how people really are. I’ve learned that the ones that are the loudest is typically the ones that have some type of grudge against a person or simply a hater. Either way I will continue to host events and make them bigger and better despite the list but I would hate for somone or a group of people to be able to just say “This person did some shady stuff, put them on a list and tell people not to go to there events” because that could inevitable hurt a community which in some ways it has hurt the CO scene.

Lastly, if you do something wrong and don’t speak for you actions then yes I can see maybe a list could be in order but right now we have situation where we have haters that have been around for a long time or those who simply want to try to make an example of someone put doing a poor job of doing it.

Why you yelling at me for? I wasn’t the one who put your name in this thread. Josh-TheFunkDOC posted his thoughts about the SuperCon right after it happened in addition to the 8 way run aftermath thread. Other people agreed and your name was put on the list. I support their decision but I had nothing to do with having you on here.

That was made back in August. This wasn’t something new. You could have made your case when this was posted back then instead of now.

The criteria for being removed from the list is pretty simple. If you look back a page or so you’ll see that there was an event that Watson and a few others had gone to that had some payment issues and things seemed to be very shady. I added them to the list and I kept watch over the happenings following that event. The people who ran that event did the best they could to make things right and explained that it was their first event and they were not 100% sure on how things work in our scene. They spoke to Watson and, as far as I know, made things right. I spoke to Watson about it and we pretty much decided that this was a mistake and not a deliberate attempt at worming money out of the people in our scene. I respectfully removed them from the list and if they decide to host another event I will keep an eye on their event and ask people who attend if there were any shady happenings there. If not then Ill just keep an eye on them and thats that.

The reason that DFG is on this list isn’t because a few people cried foul without any evidence. But because a large number of people said that they had serious issues with some things that were happening at your events and they felt that, for the good of the scene, that your name should be added to the list. But I didn’t allow them to just hop on here and say “DFG is a thief” and not provide any kind of information of proof as to why they say that. I required some kind of evidence to back up their claims and they supplied me with ample evidence to warrant your inclusion in this list. You can see just what evidence I’m talking about as I provided a link beside each promoter or venue’s name. Being included in this list doesnt mean you cannot run events. Its just a precautionary measure to ensure that nobody should fall victim to any kind of shadyness from promoters who don’t have the best interests of the fighting game scene in mind. I dont take the word of one person as proof or evidence. But I do as much research into said shady events as I can and if it seems, to me, that there is ample reason to add their name to the list then I add them. If you run legit events word will get around that you do and people will still attend what you run despite rumors. But if there is certain level of legitimacy to the claims then people wont come.

I do this as a service to our scene. I take no sides in these arguments and I have no opinions on these events outside of wanting to take care of newcomers and veterans alike.

Yo, this is SweetJohnnyCage. Have you ever heard of a period? Your name was added to the list because of evidence stacked against you. Simple as that. Of course you could turn around and run a great event, and the people who did attend it will post in the results thread that it was a great event. Maybe then your name will be removed from the list. I didn’t see any sort of foul play in the evidence brought against you. Did anyone else?

One of the factors DFG that I noticed was a huge deal in your event, which makes people believe your only pulling money from the community is that you created a Seed scenario from previous events but than had random people still be able to sign up. That was one issue. The other which stood out the most specifically was that you allowed people who lost and were out of the tournament to pay and get back in which affected the bracket system.

So people who lost multiple times were simply able to pay a fee and continue to get back in. I believe these 2 issues created a huge problem in your understanding of how tournaments are run and therefore created a lack of faith in your ability to be objective as a tournament organizer.

I would say you need to run the course of your next event(s) and allow the community to decide at that time if your events have grown, operationally and functionally. that the prize payout system your using is not flawed, that if your holding qualifiers your not allowing buy ins which created questions in your direction.

I wish you luck

your going to need it.