Toronto SFIV 17vs17: Ideas, Discussion

[Jay_Wang]

I’d like to see Round Robin.

Does anyone know the math behind it? The total potential matches x average time per match. If we’re using a standard Sogo 3 station setup it’d be long but I can’t imagine it’s not doable. You run the “bigger” matches on the stream and it’s a win/win for every participant to literally get the most varied comp.

if you want to do a round robin format then it’s:

17 x 17 = 289 matches to be played

assume 1 match sets with 2/3 rounds (ie not typical 2/3 matches … not that you will have time for it as you will see below):

5 mins for the actual match to be played (again, 1 match sudden death)
1 mins for plugging in controllers, setting buttons, switching for the next match, etc

6 mins total per match

289 matches x 6 mins per match = 1734 mins = 28.9 hrs

If there are 3 setups that can be used in parallel:

28.9hrs / 3 setups = 9.63 hrs

Add 10% to be safe

1.10 x 9.63 hrs = 10.596 hrs

So for a 17x17 round robin format (single match) across 3 setups, you are looking at 10+hrs.

[side note, if there is a 4th and 5th setup to be used it will help tremendously as ALL the matches can run in parallel:

29.8 / 4 setups = ~7 hrs
29.8 / 5 setups = ~6 hrs
29.8 / 6 setups = ~5 hrs
etc…

Basically with each additional station that you can get, you will shave off 1 hr of total time.

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round robin would take forever.

If my calcs are right, there should be 136 matches for a full round robin.

user error.

[DaFlipMastaXV]

…max round robin would be 17x17 = 289 matches dunno where the hell noodles is getting that number

[noodleman]

wang with the real math. fml.

[RXS]

We have 3 stations to work with so the raw time drops. If we divide the whole number by 3 and account for time to switch between stations/bathrooms the whole thing wouldn’t run more than say… 5 hours? That’s not a bad trade off to play 17 matches. We spend 1/3 more than that at tournies and HOPE to play 6 - 8 matches in a winning situation.

I’m coming to bet… and hopefully run live stream if SOGO internets isn’t failbox again.

[nGuman]

I’ll be there to be hype and obviously support both teams.

[DaDesiCanadian]

Wango’s math for tournament run time has always been right on the money, so i’m going to trust him on this one. 7 hours is a bit much for a tournament that requires everyone to be there most of the time.

Maybe we can adopted evo’s team format? the one where someone is eliminated when they lose, but they keep rotating the players. first team with all the players eliminated loses.

This sounds interesting…

[Nagata_Lock_II]

The EVO team format is likely the best scenario. With the sheer amount of players involved it’ll have to be tracked ridiculously well though. I’m sure a spreadsheet using a properly constructed IF formula could account for everything.

[RXS]

I will bring laptop.

[Jay_Wang]

I’ll set up the spreadsheet for a pitcher of beer

[RXS]

I’ll set up the spreadsheet for a pitcher of beer

RXS Spreadsheet ability > JayWang Spreadsheet ability

Remember i fancied up your frame datas

[NDRWPNDY]

DHALSIM
Immediately I’d put Gerjay and Dennis here. I’ve never seen NDRPWNDY play before nor ever seen him in tournament results (I could be wrong). Dennis and Gerjay really are the best Sim’s in Ontario. Eric’s making a case for himself recently as well.

As much as Nagata’s opinion on this is worth fuck-all given the fact that he’s never seen me play (which isn’t a reason in itself to pick anyone over me), I agree with him. If dat Girth wants to play Sim, it should be him and Dennis.

[DaFlipMastaXV]

Lol panday

[DaDesiCanadian]

I’ve updated the first post with the list, so people can reference it easily.

I’ve subbed out Virtuo with Mosh; (B?)Ryan said that he’d have to book a day off work, and it wouldn’t be worth it unless he made more money than from work. Mosh wants the spot, and I don’t think anyone would disagree with it.

[Drekken]

Methods to run it btw:

This only works if you add another character making it an 18 vs 18.

My idea is to let everyone get at least one match. And to shake it up so that it isn’t mirror matches.

So first we would have to try and even the field to 5-5 matchups.

Abel vs. Honda
Akuma vs. Gat
Balrog vs. Rufus
Blanka vs. Chun Li
Viper vs. Ken
Sim vs. Gief
Fuerte vs. Guile
Bison vs. Ryu
Vega vs. ???

To me all these matches seem fair (Fuerte vs. Guile may not be, not to sure about that), and we would need to add another character to face Vega. Gen would be a good option for that match up, I think.

Then we just run it in a huge Acho style format, where it cycles through the matchups twice and the team with the most wins in the end comes out victorious.

I wish i wasn’t trash at Vega in comparisson to the rest of the GTASF players or I would be so hype for this. :sad:

Regardless I will be there to support , this looks really exciting. I know the venue is already chosen but just throwing it out there that if it falls through I am offering Pownz up free of charge to host this.

[Nagata_Lock_II]

As much as Nagata’s opinion on this is worth fuck-all given the fact that he’s never seen me play (which isn’t a reason in itself to pick anyone over me), I agree with him. If dat Girth wants to play Sim, it should be him and Dennis.

It isn’t personal, you could be the best Sim in Canada. I’ve never seen you play before. From the look of it, it’s an extraordinarily limited set of players who have seen you play. Situations like this are why I’ve always encouraged people to come out to tournaments and show off their stuff. Nameless may well be the only player I’ve ever pimped that’s never been to an offline event because he’s willing to play anyone at any time online and lives out of #gtasf taking on challengers every chance he gets. It’s just a matter of exposure.

[DaFlipMastaXV]

Free of charge eh

[DaDesiCanadian]

…free of charge, eh

[KY-Ant]

damnit
i would’ve wanted to be vega and fight for that position as im trying to main vega
but i wont be around on the date
have fun guys

[Drekken]

…free of charge, eh

consider it goodwill :lol: giving back to the community

[LedHendrix]

It isn’t personal, you could be the best Sim in Canada. I’ve never seen you play before. From the look of it, it’s an extraordinarily limited set of players who have seen you play. Situations like this are why I’ve always encouraged people to come out to tournaments and show off their stuff. Nameless may well be the only player I’ve ever pimped that’s never been to an offline event because he’s willing to play anyone at any time online and lives out of #gtasf taking on challengers every chance he gets. It’s just a matter of exposure.

Nagata, Andrew has been hitting up starnet for a while now. I think everyone who hits up starnet can vouch for him. That being said, we kinda need gerjay in that viper spot because if nameless flops we got no vipers.

Though I do have another viper lined up, but thats if nameless flops.